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  • theneverfox@pawb.socialtoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldHmmmm
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    7 hours ago

    Peter Tiel I think. Trump and Altman are more like grifters. Net Yahoo and Putin are contenders, but they’re using mass murder to solidify their own power… It just feels too pedestrian

    But Tiel is like a hardcore death cultist or something. He gives speeches warning about how AI will be the anti-Christ, then goes around putting up AI cameras everywhere. He’s the type that reads 1984 and pays people to build the torment Nexus


  • I doubt it… He’s going to be a footnote. Or referred to as a turning point. He’s a symptom of systematic issues coming to a head

    There’s been lots of bad rulers. Caligula was pretty wacky… Trump isn’t the entertaining kind of delusional, even with time.

    What is there to say about him? That he embezzled openly and had an obsession with putting his name on things? That he set up concentration camps and deployed brown shirts, but stopped short of genocide because he is afraid of confrontation with the courts?

    He’s just another corrupt wanna be despot. History is full of them, but we only remember the ones who accomplished things

    When he’s gone, we’ll probably strip his name from everything. His followers are already scattering, they probably won’t see justice but they’re going to be looking for new careers

    Tragedy plus time may be comedy, but I just don’t think he’s going to be interesting to read about


  • Damn straight, no notes. This is the way.

    Luckily I think progressive candidates and most of the DSA is getting on board with this kind of politics. Mamdani continues to show how effective this can be

    Like you said, the establishment Democrats will do anything to learn the wrong lesson… They’re busy copying his social media style while completely missing the substance. They’re a real threat, because a Harris or newsom presidency would be a big nail in the coffin

    But progressives are winning seats. If on average they’re a fraction of a Mamdani, we’re going to build real momentum. Hopefully that will lead to transformational change, because we desperately need it

    Here’s hoping


  • Yeah, we did a lot under FDR… and you know exactly why and how and it resulted in widespread civil unrest by the '50s and '60s.

    I disagree with you there, I think the new deal empowered all levels of society. It gave the voiceless the wiggle room to demand more, and that’s what promoted a reaction. The unrest is not something to avoid, it is a consequence of meaningful change

    It took nearly a century to unwind the gains made in the new deal period. A century of moneyed interests working to hijack democracy and tear down the social safety nets, to perform regulatory capture, to gain control over the media

    I think that’s the blueprint we need. There will be resistance, but there will be resistance if we do it the slow way too - and the technocrats don’t have to build, they only need to destroy and maintain a narrative. They won’t be won over no matter what we do, they will never work with us, and giving them time to sabotage and manufacture consent will only make things harder

    Tell people you’re going to do it right, and then deliver. People are sick and tired of hearing values statements, they want to see your values being lived with your own two hands.

    I certainly agree there - in fact, that’s why I think we need to move much faster. People have lost faith in government, for reasons you clearly understand

    We must be like Mamdani. Not reckless, but relentless

    We don’t need to get community buy in to fix potholes. We don’t need years of pilot programs to study the feasibility of using dumpsters. We don’t need to consult the landlords about a rent freeze

    These easy wins for the people are what create buy-in for the bigger issues. As you said, these are the deliveries that build faith and trust - by acting, by delivering, you gain the support of the people

    Then when you have to tackle a more complex issue, you don’t need to explain the subtleties to the people - they don’t care. They know you do good things, things that have made life easier, and so they extend their trust to you

    Lowering drug prices is a simple win. It’s not complicated, everyone benefits, and the results will be seen by the people directly and immediately. We don’t need to think it through, we need to do it, then do it again and again until obtaining necessary drugs is a matter of course for everyone

    Climate action is not simple. It will be messy. It will demand sacrifice from the people. The benefits are not obvious. The plans will not be understood by the masses. It will require careful consideration and can easily be sabotaged. The people will resist unless we have obtained their trust by fixing problems for them repeatedly

    I’d like to believe that the DSA Dems have learned the right one. Forget “Abundance”, America lives or dies on trust.

    Absolutely, but you can’t build trust with words anymore. We are dying from a lack of trust, we can thank the establishment Democrats for that indeed

    “Forget abundance” is right. They’re just like the other neolibs who explained everything is actually great right now instead of using power while they had it

    Our people are suffering. They are not listening. They are not looking for leaders who will avoid breaking things. They are looking for those who fix things and ease their suffering

    They are demanding leaders of action. They want what we want, but they don’t know it and they don’t care to learn or listen - we must show them

    That’s how we rebuild trust. By being like Mamdani, by taking power and using it loudly. By acting before listening, then acting again immediately to show we have listened

    Not reckless, but relentless



  • Yes. Full stop, yes. I don’t know how to explain to you that we are not post-racial, we are not post-homophobia, we are the furthest thing possible from post-transphobic, etc.

    You misunderstand me. I’m not saying we shouldn’t care about minority issues, I’m saying that we don’t need to waste time polling them before calling an evacuation to avoid a forest fire

    Yes, they’re probably going to have more trouble evacuating because as a group they’re more at risk. We should absolutely send people in to help them, what’s the point of civilization if we don’t protect the vulnerable?

    But we should not delay the general evacuation. We need to get things moving, then send help to the stragglers as the situation develops

    This doesn’t apply to everything… But Medicare drug prices are not something we need to carefully measure. They’re either on Medicare, and will benefit along with the rest of society.

    Or they should be but they’re not, and if they’re not being enrolled in Medicare that’s a situation where we need to talk to them and ask why before moving forward (but we don’t need to do environmental studies there)

    You want to speed up the process, you do that by creating real consequences for people who try to weaponize the process. You want to keep people from going all NIMBY at a consultation, I promise that if you start dropping $100k fines on people for every time they misrepresent the facts in a town hall (and a couple orders of magnitude higher for the politicians and 10% of gross revenue for every corporation), you’re going to get a lot fewer people running their mouths if they’re going to lose their house if we can prove they’re full of shit. There’s a fucking reason “THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS” is one of the big 10. It’s about time we start treating it with the same degree of seriousness.

    This I high key agree with. We should go back to pressing perjury as well. The big 10 are guidelines for a functional society in antiquity - not all of them apply to modern day, but this and not murdering each other are the foundation of any society

    We can do more then one thing at a time…I think what you say would be very difficult currently, but I full throat support it. It’s not low hanging fruit, but it would be very consequential

    But I think exercising power is low hanging fruit - without that we can do nothing. We need to pass laws, enforce them, and then pass more laws to reverse or fix what didn’t work.

    The climate apocalypse is upon us already. We need to act, then act some more. We need to be willing to make mistakes, then go back and correct them even as we continue to push forward


  • Like I said, there’s a middle ground between recklessness and waffling over every aspect instead of acting

    Right, but who is going to handle enforcement and how? What departments are going to need to oversee it? Are you going to have to partner with states? Will your new policy affect minority groups and how are you going to mitigate harm or prevent them from being excluded from the benefits?

    How to handle enforcement is certainly critical detail. A law without enforcement is just a piece of paper

    Making sure programs go to people that need them is obviously the point… But does everything need study on how it’ll affect minority groups?

    The perfect is the enemy of the good. There’s something to be said about doing something simple and easily explained rather than attempting to iron out every last detail before even attempting moving

    Like Medicare drug prices… Sure, availability for minority groups is a massive concern for all aspects of Medicare. Forcing a reduction in drug prices unilaterally might cause pharma companies to limit production in way of resistance… But what if we then turned around and started pushing legislation to force licensing of drug patents if availability drops?

    What I’m saying is we should still do necessary diligence - in this case, enforcement mechanisms are central to making this a real law instead of a virtue signal

    But if we get in the habit of exercising power over corporations in general (especially in the mess we call healthcare), two imperfect actions would do more than one carefully balanced attempt at perfection

    It’s all situational obviously. No amount of rules will fully fix complicated problems, some changes have more necessary diligence than others, but exercising power can do more to influence outcomes than endless consideration of every factor

    And I guess that’s what I’m really pushing for. We need to do more action and less consulting. Problems will crop up, damage will be done, but they can be better fixed with progressive politicians who continuously take imperfect actions to respond as problems arise


  • Consider construction. They have unions, apprentices don’t get paid great but certainly better than minimum wage, and with some hands on experience you can go for a cert to do CAD and make real money

    They’re always building something, and there’s a pipeline of moving from a trade into a CAD role - they tend to promote from inside due to unions, so it can be a kind of backdoor to avoid the mess of the application process right now

    An engineer is an engineer, IDK what flavor you studied but I’m sure it’d give you a big leg up in getting into a CAD role


  • How many people hang themselves on trees in the US?

    Suicide method is highly preferential, meaning that if someone is prevented from their chosen method, the vast majority simply do not commit suicide. We’ve seen this over and over - not just on a personal level, if you install prevention measures on a popular suicide spot the local rate of suicide goes down

    For men in the US, guns are the most common method (pills for women). Hanging isn’t uncommon, but doing so outside is

    It’s also highly cultural. In more collectivist countries, public suicide happens much more. The US is very individualistic, so while people will jump from bridges and such, it tends to be done in private spaces. Doing it as a public display just isn’t as common here

    Not to mention the fact that the cases I’ve read about have been sketchy as hell… Very speedy investigation, ignoring signs like bruising and contusions, no mention of alcohol or drugs

    And finally, it’s lynching. There’s certainly cultural weight to lynching as a method of group murder, especially of certain groups

    So no… Seven people choosing is too few for it to be a new chosen method in the zeitgeist - if it were dozens, that would be far more convincing. This is sketchy as hell


  • Why? It’s one thing if it’s a bridge, or a new emissions regulation

    But so what if you don’t give pharma companies a long runway? They’ll make less money, they’ll miss their numbers, and their stock price will dip

    There’s a middle ground between the reckless destruction of trump and carefully tweaking things years from now so no one loses money in the short term

    We have big problems… Problems that need to be addressed quickly. We require solutions that cause measured damage





  • It’s largely a matter of lateral thinking and metacognition

    Like tripping over a bucket isn’t going to make you shout eureka! But you’re thinking on the problem, and you remember seeing a seller carefully packing his things up for the day into neatly sorted boxes

    (Or sometimes you do trip over a bucket, which reminds you of the seller)

    You take the root concept, sorting things using a number of containers, and then you deconstruct and reconstruct pieces of the pattern to reapply aspects of it to your problem



  • No, because if you have a room empty, you now have to identify the vacated room, which could take an infinite amount of time

    Also, it would take up to an infinite amount of distance to walk to or from the front desk, so we just be dealing with immortal guests who have no time sensitivity at all

    Furthermore, the room must be made ready and guests tend to check out at a certain time of day, so you would have to decentralize everything while accounting for light speed limiting the speed of information

    Some of these problems are solvable if you add more constraints to the puzzle. Like, if you have a rate of check-in to checkout you could do something with statistics and discrete math to divide the infinity into an infinite number of sub hotels, and in doing so possibly guarantee availability for the guest in a long but linear amount of time

    It would be an interesting programming/math puzzle. My intuition tells me it is solvable, but it might not be