• GardenGeek
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    3 days ago

    Did Iran try to conquer the US?

    According to the Russians they also ‘defend’ themselves in Ukraine. And the enemy has always been the face of the devil no matter which side you ask in any war in history.

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    Also: Are they? Our Western socies are, by the will and power of people like Merz and his pupper masters, transformed into cleptocratic oligarchies where the neofeudal ultrarich reign over their wage slaves. This outlook doesn’t differ much from modern Russia. Which is exactly my point: If the system that expects me to fight for it doesn’t differ from ‘the ifinetly worse’ enemy any more (due to the greed of the people that would los the most assets after a defeat)… why should I be motivated to die defending it?

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      3 days ago

      Are you seriously trying to hypernormalize the likes of Russia?

      Germany is a democracy with widening economic inequality. Russia is a brutal, expansionist dictatorship run by a Mafia boss. They are nothing alike and you know that.

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        3 days ago

        They are CURRENTLY nothing alike. But if you’re not seeing the possible trajectory of the current development of the German society you’re either ignorant or surprisingly naive.

        Looking at current polls: Are you absolutely certain that Germany will remain a liberal democracy if the AfD—those Russian puppets—are in power? Right now, it seems as though that is the will of a significant number of voters.

        The U.S. is also formally a liberal democracy, but you can read in the news every day just how much of that exists only on paper and how little the separation of powers actually functions there anymore. Personally, I wouldn’t want to defend such a system—which, at least as things stand now, seems to be on the horizon here as well—with my life.

        When AfD advisors are even publicly speculating about a “clarification of hegemony between France and Germany,” alarm bells start ringing—at least for me. (Source: https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/usa-venezuela-afd-100.html)

        Are you seriously trying to hypernormalize the likes of Russia?

        Also this wasn’t about the normalization of Russia but about showing how ,We’re just defending ourselves against the evil enemy" can end you up on the front of a war of aggression pretty quickly. The US for itself has waged several wars of aggression in the last decades, all internally excused with ‘reasons of national security’.

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          2 days ago

          They are CURRENTLY nothing alike.

          Yes, and currently Russia is attacking a fellow democracy and threatening us with the same thing.

          While Germany is definitely not heading the right way, the worst case scenario you are describing is not guaranteed and should not prohibit anyone from defending what we have now. It makes no sense.