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“Miller, how soon can we do that here?” – Trump, probably
What a disgusting country.
A few bombs ought to help with that.
before you reach for the downvote
/s
The right bombs in the right place at the right time
Now now, this is not the time to be spitting that language on Iran. Remember, we’re supposed to be sympathetic to them because America chose to war with them. /s
This timeline is garbage in terms of world events.
The real takeaway here is that the war isn’t doing anything to stop Iran’s violent repression
Exactly. The Trump administration and Israel allegedly took out the majority of the Iranian government’s leadership (and killed a lot of innocent people in order to do so), yet somehow the result is just that more innocent people are dying.
I’m just going to come right out and say it. What’s the deal with this war?
Sorry to ask such a provocative question. Definitely don’t want to wind up on some watch list for criticizing the
regimeadministration.Also, we are finally just calling it a war right? I know Netenyahu is, but wasn’t sure which double speak the U.S. is officially using? Are we still supposed to be pretending it’s an “intervention” and therefore not illegal?
What’s the deal with it? Something like 90% of the US gov takes AIPAC funding for 1. This has been a long, and arduous process that Israel has undertaken in order to do this. There have been multiple US politicians at this point that have stated out loud that their allegiances are with Israel, and not the US.
They want to complete the greater Israel project, and Iran would be the only true opposition to this, so they have to go. It’s not a coincidence that Israel is currently ethnically cleansing southern Lebanon while all of this is happening.
It’s not really supposed to
Well imagine you’re in Iran: you don’t have weapons, you don’t have any chance to organize… What is going to stop the oppression?
Sad to say but something like this really is the only chance they have
Tell that to Libya 🤪
Yeah or Syria
The US could arm them, but the US government probably fears that they’d turn on the US later
Well we did bomb a school full of little girls so I would not blame them for taking the guns and turning on us.
The US is the Iranian oppression.
Clearly know nothing about Iran
Yes the protests were against US and EU sanctions. Not that you would know inreed.
I’m sympathetic to the people, not to their shitty government.
How stupid do you need to be to not be able to condemn a clearly stupid and horrible war but not think that that automatically makes the victim country a “good” country
As an American I hope to also not be judged by the actions of my country’s fascist regime
Unfortunately very stupid. Also unfortunately, a bar many people seem to surpass, like the above commenter and a few others in the comments.
Tbf the guy was also involved in murdering police officers and was helping Israel and the US.
Iran isn’t great and I’m against the death penalty, but they may have had their reasons here.
This comes on the back of Iran murdering thousands of protestors. The article doesn’t go into the details, but given this critical piece of information, I would excuse anyone under the basic tenants of self defense.
American police kill that that many people every year.
Both of those things are bad.
Yeah and the US has murdered a lot of people in ICE detention.
I’d be wary of those numbers. Israel and the US have a vested interest in drumming up as much support as possible for their war against Iran.
agreed. when folks come with “yeah but iran murders protestors” and the response is “so does the US” and people dismiss that because “iran murdered thousands…” I like to ask people for the top number they are ok with. Is 2 ok? But 1000 bad? Ok so what about 20? (hinting along that the number should be zero.)
Ok so your counter argument to “but they killed 20k protestors” is literally “would it really be better if they only killed 2?”
no. its not an argument it is a question to the interlocutor; if they are mad at iran but not mad at the US they clearly have a number that is ok.
“If they are mad at Iran and not mad at the US…” It’s because they’re racist. It’s not a numbers thing. US sanctions kill 500 thousand people every year. The death and destruction that the US has brought upon the world is astronomical, but because of US exceptionalism, a lot of people refuse to see it, especially in the West.
Sounds like you’re the one here with ‘a number they’re ok with’
And apparently that number is 20k
It’s not even close to 2 or 20. American police kill more than a thousand Americans every year, far more than any other developed country.
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/policekillings_total.html
Child killer iran specifically targets young people many times even blinding them by using buck shots they did it in 2009, they did it in 2015-2017 and now they did it again from 2022 to present
And the US just bombed a school and killed many children as well.
Israel specializes in child killing.
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Places with high infant and child mortality tend to have higher birth rates specifically because people count on not all of their children surviving to adulthood.
Stop spreading FUD about genocide, it’s disgusting.
Ahhh I see the type of cesspool I’ve stepped into here.
Ah yes the valiant and honorable Iranian police
Briefly interrupted from checks notes hanging the gays
I agree with you. Just saying any other country, like Israel and the US, would’ve done the same.
like Israel and the US,
Not sure those are the shining beacons you seemingly imply…
You’re misunderstanding. I’m saying that they’re as despicable as Iran.
ty for clarification, sorry ot misundersand <3
No worries :)
No, civilised countries dont execute.
Which one is civil?
ACAB and good for him, but describing killing a cop as “protesting” isn’t really trying to honestly share the news.
Of course they had their reasons, he was protesting their tyrannical dictatorship and power. It’s not a just reason, but it’s a reason.
You think Israel wouldn’t do the same?
How is that relevant? This isn’t a zero sum game; it’s possible to be critical of both.
I’m not condoning Iran’s actions here. Let’s not sit around and help manufacture consent for this war either.
Your response was, “but Israel would do it too.” That’s irrelevant to the conversation about the Iranian government killing protesters.
You can condemn the Iranian government for doing bad things and also be against the Israel and US invasion. They’re not mutually exclusive. Just like you can condemn the actions of the state of Israel without being antisemitic.
Completely ridiculous “whataboutism” non-sequitur.
Murdering the ayatollah’s cops isn’t a bad thing. Totalitarian regimes and the people who uphold those regimes are fair game imo. Fuck the us and isreal but if was fighting for freedom I’d take any help I could get.
It’s not, it’s just not “for protesting”.
So to fight a brutal regime you are going to support a state who want to replicate the gaza genocide in Iran? So dumb
Easy for someone not making those decisions to say
Answer the question. How a genocide is going to save Iranians
I’ll answer it in terms of the people of Rojava fighting ISIS. They accepted American support even though they are against governments. They fought with air support against an evil totalitarian system and totally destroyed that system. Is the US a good actor? No. But if I was in the YPG I’d want that air support. And I’ve read many accounts of YPG and YPJ soldiers who state that.
I don’t know anything about Iranians because it is locked down there. But I assume the people fighting that government are making similar calculations.
It is so easy for a person living a comfortable western life to judge the people fighting these wars for freedom. I’m not going to sit in judgement because they weren’t pure enough and I greatly dislike those who do.
The usa did not invoke genocidal statements unlike Israel during the Iraq war. So answer the question how genociding Iran will save Iranians?
I am pretty sure the parent of those schools girls murdered by the usa in the first day are saying thank you the usa, yeah it terrible that our kids dies but it is a risk we chose to take
How do you know?
Because they tortured him into confessing?
That is the issue. Israel admitted to have agents on the ground. Now it is so easy for the regime to claim everybody could be an agent
Who knows if this is even true and that’s a huge caveat but assuming it is, horrible time to be doing a protest. Everybody needs to pull together to defeat the Great Satan. The domestic problems can wait.
Please dont tell me you mean the US with the great Satan?
The point I am standing by is: The US is bad, especially und the current administration it is on the brink of authocraty - but dare I say the Mullah regime was, is and will be worse.
The other week I saw Iranians in exile celebrating trump and even fucking Netanyahu on a demonstration. Now I don’t think they are idiots for swinging Israeli and USA flags along with the flag of their former kings heir. I think they bet on the tiniest potential for change and hope that it will come true - no matter who aids them in the fight against their torturer, their mourderer.
I sincerely hope the people of iran will be free one day, I think they will have to fight for this freedom themselves as the US won’t succeed in that if it is even their aim.
Isn’t ICE doing essentially the same thing here in the USA? Maybe Iran should bomb and liberate us?
No, it is not.
Sorry, fuck ice and all, but don’t make shit up. There have been extremely preventative deadly incidents, but I’ve never seen an ice agent walk out of a building with a prisoner, and shoot them in the head right there.
No need to make shit up
Uh…
Renée Nicole Macklin Good?
In the head?
In the streets?
Not a prisoner. A citizen.
No need to make shit up
but I’ve never seen an ice agent walk out of a building with a prisoner, and shoot them in the head right there.
Alex peretti ? It literally happened two months ago when he was executed in the streets.
Unless you want to be technical and say “uh well ackshawly he wasn’t a prisoner and didn’t come out of a building”.
Was he executed or murdered?
Seriously?
People are dying in concentration camps without access to healthcare, let alone those ICE are just shooting in the streets. No need to push white supremacist appoligia
You’re absolutely right, ICE doesn’t even bother putting up a “trial” and torturing the suspect for a confession for murder, they just execute you in the street without even an illusion of due process, and they may call you a fucking bitch after.
Lick some boots.
Where did all those missing detainees from Alligator Auschwitz go?
You are wrong. They execute them without cause, warrant, or trial. On the street.
Executed for murdering a security officer. Good riddance.
So you are pro death penalty?
Accused of murdering a security officer. No trial, and such accusations are often used by tyrannical regimes to justify political killings.
“Good riddance?” Hardly. I hope you’re not a supporter of the Iranian government. Because that makes you an enemy of its people.
He had a trial and was found guilty. There is plenty of footage of rioters killing security officers. More than 200 were killed. It is sheer delusion to claim these are all sham trials.
The article doesn’t say he had a trial. Where are you getting this information?
You’re pro-death penalty?
You are pro murder?
You’re trying to argue in bad faith. I’m not even going to address your silly attempt at a “gotcha”.
You would rather let amateurs do it?
