• Tattorack@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Americans…

    A country that produces mental health issues… And they give them guns. And Americans defend this like it’s a normal fact of life.

    David Bowie made a whole song about that.

    • Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works
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      A country that exists because of its use of guns to gain independence.

      Its hard to change the culture when it exists literally because of having guns.

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        Yeah? Europe survived two World Wars. You don’t see us having a gun culture like America.

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          And Switzerland has more guns per capita than the US because their government mandates it. And yet, the Swiss have little to no mass shootings unlike the US. It is down to the American culture of being so gung ho and and excessively individualistic not to fund public education and mental health services.

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            Switzerland has 1/4 the number of guns per capita as the U.S.

            Switzerland requires a permit to own a gun. This permit is also required to own daggers. This permit requires a clean criminal record and no mental health problems. Any guns acquired with this permit must be registered with the canton. Automatic firearms and tasers are banned.

            You are not allowed to carry a weapon in public unless you have a separate permit that is issued sparingly.

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            Switzerland doesn’t have a gun industry saturating the market with guns. Swiss guns are owned by the military, and they have a pretty low population compared to the size of their country.

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              ??
              With H&K and SigSauer, Germany and Austria have a sizable gun industry, without the massive shooting problems. Because of the same language, these two companies could easily advertise and lobby in Switzerland.

              Swiss pop density is 226 inh/km^2, whereas USs is 41 inh/km^2 and even denser areas like New York state are merely 159 inh/km^2.

              I think it’s all policy and very little other factors.

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                Heckler and Koch, and SigSauer have their biggest manufacturing subsidiary in the United States.

                Try again.

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                  Why is that the case? Because the laws create a favourable market, is it not?

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                    Laws that allow consumer market saturation. There are more guns than people in the US due to its arms industry.

          • 0x0@lemmy.zip
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            And Switzerland has more guns per capita than the US

            Norway and Canada too, i reckon.

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              Big doubt on Canada given handgun ban and level of regulation. Doubt Norway is any looser or near “just go buy a few glocks and a rifle or two from strangers at a show it’s k”

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        That’s nonsense, having guns is what keeps anything from falling apart and become an absolute dictatorship