“The major problem behind anonymity is toxicity,” argues digital governance minister
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Have these people actually ever compared the anonymous internet with the named internet? Facebook is flooded with bigots and idiots that readily spout racist and hateful words, with their full name in plain sight. Meanwhile, anonymous places like Reddit are far better moderated (yes, I know we hate on reddit here but it is much better moderated than Facebook). Same applies to most of the fediverse.
I suspect these people haven’t actually used these anonymous places on the internet much. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.
And this is so problematic. First of all, there’s really a chilling effect going on with putting your real identity to your online posts. I’m not sure if I would be posting on here if everybody could link my profile here to my real name. There is a reason why people are not discussing depression, drug use, or marital problems with their work colleagues or neighbors. And people really would not like if prospective employers could see everything they are writing online.
There’s also a chilling effect on political debate. You really do not want your home address being available to violent Neo-Nazis, Hamas supporters, Covid-deniers and other idiots. That will lead to harassment and this will lead to people stopping discussing certain topics.
Even for people who might use their real name, it’s probably only because they belong to a class of people who don’t need to worry about the vitriolic bullshit bigotry that so many others deal with on a regular basis.
I’m willing to accept that dropping anonymity might cool down some toxicity. But if the cost is removing a very necessary layer of protection for those who absolutely need it, it’s too high a cost to pay.
And this is so problematic. First of all, there’s really a chilling effect going on with putting your real identity to your online posts. I’m not sure if I would be posting on here if everybody could link my profile here to my real name. There is a reason why people are not discussing depression, drug use, or marital problems with their work colleagues or neighbors. And people really would not like if prospective employers could see everything they are writing online.
I think that the big problem is that more than putting your real identity to your post there should be a way to identify you in case it is needed, anonymity cannot be a free pass to commit any kind of crime.
Online you are not really anonymous anyway, your provider know where and when you go to a site, it would not be difficult to trace back to you if someone is willing to do it.I don’t know how this problem could be solved btw.
There’s also a chilling effect on political debate. You really do not want your home address being available to violent Neo-Nazis, Hamas supporters, Covid-deniers and other idiots. That will lead to harassment and this will lead to people stopping discussing certain topics.
Well, if anonymity is removed also the violent Neo-Nazis (or whatever) is exposed, maybe he would think twice before doing/saying something stupid knowing that nothing stop someone else to make him the victim of harassment or to be treated like an idiot or ignored at work (or any other real life situation) because people find his social accounts and simply decide to not interact with (if not totally boycott) him.
Yes, maybe not the first time, but in the end people like these will return where they belong, in their small circle of idiots.Experience (see Facebook, in general, and the real name experiment) says that no, your last point does not hold. As it turns out, people are more than happy to be assholes with their names attached, never mind the many others who don’t want to make drama and are more than happy to keep hanging out with them.
If you roam around the internet for long enough, in the right public areas, you are bound to find plenty of tales of families choosing to keep hanging out with abusers over the victims, never mind people who are just “being mean on the internet”.
Well, if anonymity is removed also the violent Neo-Nazis (or whatever) is exposed, maybe he would think twice before doing/saying something stupid knowing that nothing stop someone else to make him the victim of harassment or to be treated like an idiot or ignored at work (or any other real life situation) because people find his social accounts and simply decide to not interact with (if not totally boycott) him.
how naive.
a violent neonazi will show up at 3 am at your address with a balaclava. throw a molotov cocktail through your bedroom window and leave before the police arrives.
a violent neonazi will show up at 3 am at your address with a balaclava. throw a molotov cocktail through your bedroom window and leave before the police arrives.
A balaclava don’t save you if I know who you are.
The point is that all these supposed “violent neonazi” are what they are because they think that they are “anonimous” on Internet but they have not the balls to do it in the real life, else there would be way more attacks you describe, after all there are a lot of people who already expose themself against them in the real life.
Public discourse: made in China.
Every accusation against China is a confession and in no way related to what’s actually going on in China.
Best case scenario is this provides the hard data showing how dangerous this is and it serves as a real deterrent against adoption elsewhere.
Worst case, is that it’s so effective at chilling public discussion that it becomes a blueprint for everywhere.
Should this become reality, hate groups won’t even need to doxx people anymore. The law will do it for them.
Pavlos Marinakis, the deputy prime minister, clarified that the intention is not to abolish pseudonyms but to ensure that every profile corresponds to a real person.
To protect the shareholders
This is my old account that was banned by the over zelous turdz at programming.dev. I would just like that to be known. Also the capitalist have a global network. They are poking and proding to see what they can get away with… The best solution is understand how you leak data and how to stop them from extracting that data. Finding and creating platforms to go around the corpos and their tyranny. If people keep banning each other they will win. That is all I got to say about that.
Greece can eat shit -anonymous social media user
Grease
I concour
Athena gonna protest hard
God I hope so… go ape
