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U.S. handling of Israel’s war crimes (i.e. actively protecting them from consequences) has and will continue to embolden others. Expect more of this behavior.
Fucking war criminals.
Imagine if the NYT treated Palestinian lives with as much concern.
More reason to never surrender. Russians will just kill you anyway. Least have their blood create sunflowers.
Russians do this because its their terror. They fear the sudden bullet to the brain and think it will create fear in others. What is does it is create a resolve to defeat them. Something few russians understand because their version of it is fatalistic.
Where are the ML to call it genocide? Eastern genocide is totally fine.
This is a war crime, not genocide. If this is your standard for genocide then you should also be saying Ukraine is committing genocide.
Russia is committing many war crimes but their goal is clearly to annex Ukrainian territory and absorb the Ukrainians into Russa. Not the eradication of Ukrainians.
As Zionists loved to point out, before Israel openly started proclaiming their goal is to kill all Palestinians and replace them; genocide requires explicit intent to destroy a population. Not only annex territory.
You cannot call every war crime ‘genocide’. It is not a word you can throw around lightly. The difference in Ukraine is that Russia is still primarily killing combatants whereas Israel is killing mostly women and children.
Person who loves tanks.
Don’t forget, your first article is unverified reports directly from Russia! No independent sources here.
The Kremlin has accused Ukrainian soldiers of executing more than 10 Russian prisoners of war following the circulation of a video on social media purporting to be from the frontline.
The footage appears to show a group of Russian soldiers emerging from an outbuilding in the grounds of a house with their hands above their heads before they are told to lie facedown.
One of the men wearing all black, however, seems to turn his gun on what appears to be a Ukrainian unit of soldiers wearing yellow armbands as he emerges from the half-destroyed outhouse.
The footage, seemingly taken by a Ukrainian soldier, suggests that all the Russians, including those in a prone position, were killed in the violence that followed. There are at least 12 bodies.
Just video footage. No Ukrainian government to say it so it didn’t happen! As pathetic as questioning whether Russians executed the Ukrainian POW’s. When there is a video of it happening there’s no point in screaming source source.
You think Russians can’t dress people up and stage an event like that? Really? Lol and that’s not even critical thinking, just the regular kind.
Obviously sources need to be taken seriously, and Russia is not a good one. But yeah, let’s just trust propaganda entirely like you do. Your arguments are laughable.
Please ignore the forced disappearance of Ukrainian children, residents of Mariupol discovering that their bombed out homes were being rebuilt for Russian immigrants with no space left for them, the uninvestigated murders of Crimean Tartars, dropping cluster munitions on civilian evacuations, bombing of civilian shelters, bombing of hospitals, and the large scale rape and murder in Bucha
Once again: many war crimes. Undeniable. Genocide? Likely not.
Israel is primarily slaughtering civilians. Women and children make up most of their casualties. All hospitals and infrastructure is destroyed
Russia is committing many war crimes but they are nowhere near the level of Israel; trying to wipe out the population.
Lmao, “it’s only a little bit of genocide lasting a century, not as bad as this other one, totally cool”.
I mean, you’re TECHNICALLY correct, but the Russians are on record saying Ukraine and Ukrainians do not exist as a separate people. So it’s slightly more genocidy than you make out.
A state or group and its inhabitants are not the same.
If someone says “Death to Russia”, “death to Israel” or “death to ISIS” this does not mean wishing death upon everyone who lives under their rule. It means trying to get rid of the group ruling them.
Russia says Ukrainians do not exist as a separate people and tries to annex their land: war crime.
Israel says Palestinians do not exist (not the state, the people) and that they want kill them all, expell them from their land and put them in a concentration camp: genocide.
This is not a “technicality”. This is the crux of what genocide means. It is not a word to be thrown around lightly.
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Nowhere did they say Ukraine is committing genocide. They said Ukraine also executed POW’s which is backed up by video evidence.
Hey, remember how that article is unverified by independent sources and comes directly from Russia? Ya know, propaganda? Hey, that video evidence that you claim is proof, can’t Russian soldiers dress up as Ukrainian and then execute people?
Hey, do you have any independent thoughts going on?
STILL waiting on a response. Lmao
Because they implied it. I’m familiar with how that works, from tankies to conservatives. You should be too.
STILL waiting on that response, six hours later, about the executions Russia alleged with no independent verified sources. How is that a “good example”? Using propaganda as a source and then trying to claim that user didn’t imply it? Okay lol
They did not imply it. They said that executing POW’s is not genocide but a war crime. Then they provided a good example showing why it is a war crime and not genocide.
You are imagining them saying something they did not say.
Still waiting on why unverified reports by Russia (propaganda) is a “good example” lmao
Did I imagine that too?
Downvotes and has not once mentioned how their entire argument hinges on false propaganda.
They definitely implied it by denying Russian genocide, ignoring relevant historical context, and then drawing a false equivalency on the standard of genocide by saying: “If this is your standard for genocide then you should also be saying Ukraine is committing genocide.”
The example wasn’t very good when surrounded by context. That article is also reports by Russia, unverified by independent sources (read: propaganda). I didn’t imagine anything, I just read it and I am familiar with how these types operate. Same playbook as MAGA.
You’ll notice further down the chain they refuted nothing, used a buzz word, and resorted to mockery.
Still waiting on your response about using propaganda as a “good example”.
They linked an article about Ukrainians executing POW’s. That is a directly applicable comparison to this post.
They mocked you because you are making up things they did not say.
Hello mr strawman how are you
Hello Mr Buzz Words with no substance, how are you
Consider reading my top comment again and do it slowly. Then feel very ashamed of yourself for being illiterate.
I read and dismissed it. Pretty easy when evidence contradicts you.
Wow so you deny the genocide in Gaza.
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Yeah they suck
Nobody wants your tankie bullshit. Stop saying Israel is not committing genocide and Russia has the right to annex Ukraine
See what I did there?
I see you made up a bunch of shit I never said. I know how ML works.
well, yeah, who the fuck is going to stop the blyats?
In this case, I would think the perpetrator has already received their drone strike. The surveillance drone operator likely didn’t spend a long time before alerting FPV pilots.
In general… yes. Finding them later would be hard. If they survived the war, they’d likely escape unknown.
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More Ukrainian conscripts, obviously. Just keep throwing out waves of them until the Russian front line breaks.
I’m not sure of your intent, but the alternative is to lay down, let Russia take the country, and then see how many soldiers and civilians are executed and their children abducted.
the alternative is to lay down, let Russia take the country
That’s a foregone conclusion if Trump can strong arm Ukraine into elections and Zelenskyy gets washed (as looks increasingly likely given how unpopular he’s become). Then control tilts back to a bunch of Russia-friendly Ukrainian business goons more interested in doing deals than fighting over turf.
How many poorly equipped press-ganged infantrymen want to die for Ihor Kolomoisky’s vision of a future Ukraine?
Ukrainian constitution prohibits elections during war.
If there is peace, Zelenskyy himself has said he wants an election.
Ukrainian constitution prohibits elections during war.
Under martial law, specifically, it seems.
One hell of a state of exception they’ve got there. Can’t imagine why anyone in power would want it to drag on indefinitely.
It’s common sense really. It’s impossible to have a fair election when you’re at war. A good portion of voting age men are on the front lines. Way too many opportunities for an external force to affect the results
It’s impossible to have a fair election when you’re at war.
How many elections has the US held during war time? Hell Lincoln won his second term before the Civil War was over.
Maybe don’t rely on rt for news… zelensky’s popularity shot up after Trump and Vance’s oval office disgrace. Trump then sent people to try to convince zelensky’s opposition to push for elections, and even the opposition told them to fuck off.
zelensky’s popularity shot up after Trump and Vance’s oval office disgrac
So he’ll be excited about holding elections?
even the opposition told them to fuck off.
Keep telling yourself that
Lmao. You’re either a tankie or a Russian. In both cases, get out of here.
Smells like Russian, you can tell from a mile a way
One can be both! Oh wait…I’ve just been informed the tanks are on hella backorder. :)
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
I bet your favorite pickup line is “Stop squirming!”
Ironic given the support this sub shows for involuntary conscription
