• mausoleum@lemmy.world
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      Pff

      Yeah blame America for this danish guy being arrested in his own country for protesting Israel

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      Apparently it’s a Dutch guy, but I stand by what I said and I’m not sorry for saying it. Downvote me all you want, it’s validating.

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          That’s delusional. They’re a nation with ten million people, one of the largest arms and tech industries on the planet, and an arsenal of hydrogen bombs.

          Israel isn’t going anywhere.

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          You’ve got my attention. Why do you think that?

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          Predictable, but unfortunate. I guess this is just reddit for people with slightly more nuanced performative outrage

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            …they would be under sanctions more severe than cuba or russia if the US didn’t veto anything that remotely held them accountable that made it’s way through the UN

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            Because Israel isn’t that big of a country. The countries around them are held back in part because the support of the US and EU is just that big of a stick. Economic sanctions alone can be very rough and actual military support is insane. Not so great at making any good lasting changes but toppling the Iraqi government was very fast. US coalition invaded March 20, Baghdad fell in April 9, a new government was in place by September 3, and Saddam captured December 13. Obviously things are different nowadays with drones and population willingness to deal with the maimed/dead and domestic price increases.

            Now if there’s Chinese or Russian support then things may change. Russia is still tied up with Ukraine and China is relatively neutral because they don’t have that much skin in that area yet.

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              The US also supports every country around Israel with some form of aid. Meaning you aren’t just getting economic sanctions but major funding pulled.

              $245 million to Egypt, $496 million to Lebanon, $1.82 Billion to Jordan. You get the picture.

              China is fairly pro-palestine from what I have read, which is weird since I would guess the more legitimate Israel’s claims on Palestine would make their claim over Taiwan more legitimate.

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          But they’re the ones arresting a dude for holding a sign

          Hope that helps reframe the terms of my comment, ambassador

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        Bro I don’t know what to tell you. I don’t know how you can watch all these countries suck America boot and not understand where the problem is.

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        As an American, fuck the US entirely. We are vassal of the fascist State of Israel and the entire world should be protesting us.

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    Good on everyone involved for maintaining their silence throughout. Like genuinely that shows respect from all parties involved.

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    I completely understand and agree with sentiment of holding the sign. But I’m a bit conflicted about this since I don’t feel like this is the moment to do it.

    For context once a year we have a day for Remembrance of the Dead. This particular moment is 1 minute of silence at 20:00 that the entire country holds for this.

    In the ceremony that proceeds they usually also mention the people that lost their lives in different wars across the globe which probably includes Gaza, Ukraine, Sudan and more.

    So yes I think our government should do more against Israel, but I’m conflicted about this time and place.

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      Holding a performative vigil for victims of a previous genocide while being complicit in a new one… That is turning the Holocaust into a hollow cause.

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      What law validates his arrest? Did just say he was somehow obstructing the gathering? Or something like “you can’t bother people”?

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        Article 430. He wasn’t even arrested he was just asked to move to the designated area for protesting, after the minute of silence ended.

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          He wasn’t even arrested he was just asked to move to the designated area for protesting, after the minute of silence ended.

          Man, this is something I’d expect from tankies defending CCP.

          Can’t even hold a sign in protest anymore?

          When the fascists come, I hope you remember to follow the law to move to a “designated” area for whatever excuse they’ve made up to round people up.

          I know I’m exaggerating, but this is how they silence their criticism and call themselves "civilized.*

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      But I’m a bit conflicted about this since I don’t feel like this is the moment to do it.

      It’s the exact perfect moment to do it.

      You don’t get to compartmentalise your carrying out/being complicit in any degree with atrocities then get to police others for reinforcing the point just because it sticks your hypocrisy right in your face

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      Are you retarded? When would be better than when you are reflecting on the abhorrent nature of genocide?