An investigation by the animal welfare group Four Paws reveals systemic neglect at Romania’s publicly funded shelters for stray dogs
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just Romania?
It’s just a coincidence, but I work with a couple of Romanian guys and they have each separately ranted about how much they dislike dogs in the time I’ve known them. Always stood out as bizarre to me.
dogs are a symbol for the corporate way of life. there’s even the proverb of “you’re a dog of the company/military” for people who blindly follow orders and don’t think for themselves.
i, for one, don’t like dogs either.
There’s an easy solution: stop getting pets.
It’s a solution no pet-“lover” wants to hear, but it’s a solution, nonetheless. If you own an animal, you’re part of the problem. Simple fact. Now downvote me because I have hurt your feelz.
This is not it, chief. Eastern Europe has lots of problems with street animals, and it’s not because people get pets. Most of the time, the animals in these shelters are just “wild” street dogs, which end up forming packs and may attack people.
There’s campaigns to neuter dogs and cats to limit the population, but you’ll find out that, very frequently, funds will be siphoned off to the pockets of local politicians. Also, some people won’t neuter their animals because they believe they won’t be useful anymore for defending their yards or catch mice.
And what’s the outcome? Dogs and cats end up on the streets, reproduce, and end up increasing the population further, thus propagating the problems.
Western European countries don’t struggle as much with this, and even import pets from other countries. The conditions are also much better for animals in these countries. The problem in countries like Romania is corruption and a lack of empathy towards animals, not people owning pets.
That is correct, but also: where did these dogs come from? Yeah right, those WERE pets who were discarded at some point. Doesn’t really change my point. Without people wanting “pets”, there would not be that many animals suffering. There are, obviously, more complex patterns to it, but it simply boils down to this as the origin.
Dogs were not originally seen as pets in these countries, but rather as work animals. If you were to visit rural areas in an Eastern European country 5-10 years ago, you’d find that people that owned a dog had them chained up next to their fences, used them for protecting their livestock, or used them for hunting. If one were to escape, the village would have an extra litter of puppies that would most likely be dumped in the middle of a field or another village.
I’m not arguing for horror stories like puppy mills, which I am completely against and agree with you in those kinds of cases. But countries like Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, etc. are a bit different. Most of these dogs come from rural areas, which managed to live off of garbage until now.
The alternative to the shelter is euthanasia, but I am honestly glad if a responsible person decides to adopt the animal instead. What you should really be against is people paying to adopt a specific breed from a breeder, not those that free up space in actual shelters.
I’m sure they’re already against breeding. They’re just saying the root cause of this problem is domestication. Whether it was for “pets” (as in just for cuteness) or for labor like you say.
If every domesticated/not wild animals were captured, neutered/spayed, and adopted or better, taken care of at in a centralized, public fashion of animal sanctuaries, these domesticated animals will in theory go extinct. And for some “pet lovers” that’s hard to accept.
The alternative to the shelter is euthanasia
btw i believe that is partly also the reason why some places in southeast asia have traditionally eaten all kinds of meat, including dog, cat and snake meat. because there were simply too many stray animals around, and they pester people (stray dogs can be violent), and if somebody eats the meat, that means that somebody gets paid to round up all these stray dogs and put an end to them.
Not saying you’re wrong (which you aren’t, obviously), but the problem here is still the same: People. If not for “pets” then we created them for work or other kind of slavery. Which now ends up in exactly these problems of “stray” dogs WE created. Can’t argue on how many of those strays in RO are ex-pets or ex-workers, i just lack the statistics.
u do realize that wild animals existed before humans started having pets?
Yeah i know. The 5000yr old ancient fossils of pugs and chihuahuas that were recently dug up were eye-opening 😁
You’re right but there’s a difference between adopting and paying a breeder.
Hence the slogan “Adopt, Don’t shop”
There’s no difference except for your conscience. Adopting makes breeding and throwing away more profitable.
That’s not true. Adoption implies no profit.
The only little sidenote is that people who pay for animals have an easier time getting rid of them if they get bored of them, which might slightly push people towards actually purchasing one.
Well, as long as people will collect the trash in front of your house regularly, even export/import it to and from elsewhere, you’re gonna throw trash in front of your house.
Adopting is for feeling good and patting oneself on the shoulder. Mostly. One is still part of the circle of owning lesser lifeforms, just calling it “love” and feeling morally superior to those who want a “fresh” animal.
You’re completely wrong.
I’m vegan and against all exploitation. I adopted my dog because his owners couldn’t care for him anymore. He wasn’t castrated because I considered that animal abuse. He is now though because of medical reasons but he never made pups. If he would have had some, they would have needed a home because humans made dogs into what they are now.
Adoption is morally good whatever you think.
You’re free to think I’m totally wrong.
But if you are against exploitation, why do you submit a lifeforms to your will, own it, and also deny it its only biological purpose? Not saying that mutilating animal’s genitals, just so they do what we want them do (or not), is morally great. It’s not. But neither is taking it away from them.
I’m not even a vegan but could not do that AND feel good about it.
because humans made dogs into what they are now.
Also, there you have made my point. WE created a circle of suffering that will never end. Adoption isn’t the solution.
What kind of gaslighter are you? I said he had to get castrated because of medical reasons.
I’m not even gonna continue.
