I’d let him be, he prevented a worse genocide by giving America the ick of eugrnics.

“…I molest baby Hitler to stop the holocaust”

~queenhawlsera@sh.itjust.works

Thank you for your service

Definitely offered an abundance of context for their conversational partner’s curt responses. You don’t even need the rebuttal greentext, they’ve already confirmed everything.

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Not everyone is even capable of that.

How the fuck can you reduce everything to a binary operation?

I would molest baby Hitler

~fizz@lemmy.nz

Now everyone will know, for better or worse

There’s no level of autism that can get you to think that talking about molesting baby Hitler would be a good idea, especially with a girl that anon is presumably trying to impress. There’s a reason that anon is on 4chan, and it’s not just autism.

« be me, say I have autism to excuse my anti-social behaviours and refusing to see my own fault in this situation. Probably because of my higher brain chemistry and women’s fault »

“Not even”

Autism is officially the final boss of communication issues

it’s also actually relatively easy to just not go there

Into neurotypical society or broaching baby molestation? Because I’d have a harder time avoiding one than the other, but I won’t judge my experiences as the only correct ones.

I think a lot of people tend to externalize the consequences of murder as simply a matter of course. Like, a lot of people don’t think of themselves as murderers, but do think that if push comes to shove, or if shit hits the fan, or if worse comes to worst, they’d be able to dig deep and find the strength within themselves to “do what needs to be done” and “protect their family” or whatever.

In this sense, murder is just “work.” It’s a means to an end, if an extreme one.

But, basically no one feels this way about molestation. I mean, how could you? There’s no obvious connection between action and effect; the prompt says there is, but you just have to take that on faith. It’s probably easier to just commit the murder, anyway, which means there’s a degree of “indulgence” inherent to this that makes it feel much more gross. Plus, most people know this intuitively: we fix problems either by stopping them (murder, prison) or repairing them (therapy, support, love), and molestation is neither of those. Intuitively, it seems like the molestation would make things worse, actually.

So, in a rule-utilitarianism sense, I think people feel that murder is horrible, but permissible. Molestation is just horrible.

Also, regarding all of the above points, there’s a virtue ethics angle to what each of those options might say about what kind of person you are, even if they both yielded the same outcome.

To be fair, he was innocent as a baby obviously.

But much easier to imagine woodchipping him than well, the fucked up shit anon spouted.

Maybe we are all different kinds of sick?

Frankly, I don’t see how killing baby Hitler is not… extremely obviously morally superior to molesting baby Hitler.

You can kill anybody nearly instantly.

‘Molestation’ implies… over a signifcant amount of time.

It also implies that this is done in lieu of directly killing baby Hitler.

So you’ve now generated an even more fucked up Hitler.

Who will… regardless of how their time travel affrcted lifepath plays out… well they’ll have been molested. As a core memory.

That… seems to me to be less moral, causes more Hitler-suffering, unnecessarily.

You’ve minimized total suffering, via killing baby Hitler.

… this is all assuming that just… doing either of these things somehow results in Hitler not coming to power, WW2 doesn’t happen, holocaust doesn’t happen.

Frankly I also do not see anything near a guaranteed causality to ‘molesting baby Hitler’ -> ‘somehow WW2 does not happen’.

Whereas it is at least semi-plausible that killing baby Hitler at least could result in ww2/holocaust not happening… I guess the … Strasserists just stay in control of the Nazis? And do not have a strangely charismatic firebrand to massively expand the movement?

So it also just seems very impractical, unlikely that molesting baby Hitler would achieve the presumably desired aim.

And it also assumes that these are your only two possible actions.

Of course the entire thing is ludicrous is the sense of hinging on perfect foreknowledge, and time travel, which is fundamentally paradoxical, and/or results quantum suicide/immortality type nonsense, and/or in the Red Alert timeline.

Oh god, and we essentially have to assume that this will be the only possible instance of time travel that ever happens, otherwise we potentially get into a kind of battling time travellers scenario ala whatever the fuck the Terminator series is doing now, and/or just a reality where many people can do time travel.

Why not just do… teleportation, and either kill or molest Trump or Netanyahu, right now?

I think I’d again conclude that telefragging them would be morally superior.

Typical people deal with rape, murder is far rarer so there’s less “reality” to it. Go to a war torn country and you’d get a different response. Possivly “who is hitler?”

But, more specifically, the kill baby Hitler question already exists in the social ether to be finished through call and respond. Branching into molestation requires recontextualization which pulls us into reality. It’s no longer call and respond, and you’ve just asked someone if they’d molest a baby.