• Spock1240@startrek.websiteEnglish
    21·
    1 day ago

    Yeah, I dont think they discussed that to anyone after that incident at all. It was a very weird episode. It’s like it disappeared from Trek lore.

    • Hasherm0n@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      22 hours ago

      So fun fact for anyone that doesn’t know, the original concept for the Borg was an insectoid race and this episode was supposed to be the initial lead in to a larger arc introducing them. Several factors, budget and the writers strike in 1988 chief among them, led to the original story being abandoned and eventually the Borg were reworked into what they are today.

      • Spock1240@startrek.websiteEnglish
        2·
        8 hours ago

        So that’s why. They were supposed to the Borg race. Damn. Would have been an interesting way for the Borg to have evolved.

  • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nzEnglish
    82·
    2 days ago

    That episode was wild. Setting up the big bad monster for the federation to be fighting… then just forgetting all about them.

    • RustyShackleford@piefed.socialEnglish
      51·
      2 days ago

      I vaguely recall reading years ago that they were intended to be the initial infiltrator wave of what eventually became the Borg forces. I could be mistaken, since it was around the pre-AOL days.

      • ValueSubtracted@startrek.websiteEnglish
        39·
        2 days ago

        That info is out there for sure, but I’ve always found it pretty shaky. Here’s what Memory Alpha has to say on the subject:

        The Star Trek Chronology, 2nd ed., p. 290 noted: “Although Picard and company were successful in eradicating them, the parasites did send a mysterious radio signal, presumably to others of their kind. At the time the episode was written, this was apparently intended to lead to the introduction of the Borg in Star Trek: The Next Generation’s second season. The Borg connection was dropped before “Q Who” (TNG) was written, and the truth about the parasites remains a mystery.”

        The “apparently” always trips me up, but maybe there’s a more definitive statement or there that I haven’t seen.

        It certainly could be true.

        • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
          15·
          2 days ago

          It sounds like a post hoc connection to explain it away, rather than that being that actual intention. I assume we’ll probably never know though.

      • kieron115@startrek.websiteEnglish
        16·
        2 days ago

        I’m pretty sure I saw something on the blu-ray special features about this? It was gonna be too expensive to have the creepy worm alien things as a recurring enemy so they made the Borg as a cheaper alternative.

        • christopher@lemmy.caEnglish
          4·
          1 day ago

          Too expensive to put one little mark on someone’s neck but building Borg suites wasn’t eh

          • kieron115@startrek.websiteEnglish
            5·
            23 hours ago

            lol the borg suits are just spandex with a bunch of random hoses and shit glued to them. no need to animate little worm parasites.

            • Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              10 hours ago

              On screen, the Borg are exclusively human in appearance underneath. Yeah, pretty cheap production values.

    • Fluffy Kitty Cat@slrpnk.netEnglish
      8·
      2 days ago

      I’m surprising never brought that back as a villain. It would have been perfect and they left the door open to that many years ago

  • lauha@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    2 days ago

    Wasn’t the queen destroyed at the end of the episode and all the others died because he queen died?

    • Damage@feddit.itEnglish
      17·
      2 days ago

      I hate the “destroy the central entity and the others will be disabled” trope, so overused in sci-fi

      • filcuk@lemmy.zipEnglish
        9·
        1 day ago

        I see it used on species that don’t have individial identities, where one controls the brood, and for those it makes sense and I don’t mind.
        Didn’t see this ep so not sure it applies.
        Starship troopers is a good example perhaps, not many others I can think of.
        Star craft 2 did this well IMO, where the brood without mother splits into chaotic disordered groups who are aggressive to everyone.

      • lauha@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        1 day ago

        I understand that, but my point was that the issue was resolved in the episode unlike the post make you believe