On Tuesday, May 19, the U.S. House passed H.R. 2616, the “Stopping Indoctrination and Protecting Kids Act,” by a vote of 217-198. The bill would hand the Trump administration enormous leverage to strip federal funding from any school that “teaches or advances concepts” related to transgender people, codifying into federal law the anti-trans definitions from Trump’s executive order 14168, “Defending Women from Gender Ideology Extremism.” It would also require public schools to forcibly out transgender students to their parents before using their pronouns or chosen names. The bill is significant on its own terms for the harm it would inflict on transgender youth if it became law. But what made Tuesday’s vote especially notable was the eight Democrats who joined every Republican to pass it—the largest Democratic defection on any standalone anti-trans bill of this Congress.
Hava democrat loko ne Mari naku juiye
Of course they did.
They’ll sell their own kids into transgenderism if it advances their career. And sell out transgender kids if it advances their career.
The only way to stop this is to eat their kids. But that’s murder…so you really gotta eat their cum.
For the good of society, please eat their cum, someone…anyone!
what
When I said both are the same, no one wanted to hear it. I didn’t mean vote for the regressives, I meant it’s time for guillotines.
People of course, twisted it to mean I was doing a whataboutism.
Well, even a mentally disabled man like me could see it coming years ago!
I’m one of the stupidest men alive and even I have more awareness of the state of US politics than most American liberals. You mention that ‘vote blue no matter who’ is the height of idiocy and receive responses about how not voting is for idiots.
Of course it is, because not voting isn’t the suggestion being made, but it certainly is a useful straw man for the absolute broomsticks who can’t swallow the fact their beloved Democrats are just as complicit in the American political charade.
This is a dumbass take.
This is a shit take. ALL Rs voted for this. No dems NEEDED to vote for this for it to pass, but some did. If we want to make the Dem party an acutal progressive party, then these Nazi pieces of shit need to be primaried. This doesn’t make all Dems nazis…
It’s a shit system but you aren’t going to change it by 1) not voting and 2) generalizing.
Vote. For individuals. Not because they are Dem, but because you’ve dug into a candidate and found them to match your beliefs.
Fix your attitude, or the progressives will never make it.
Democratic party is controlled opposition and many party members are friends or friendly with Republican party members, and attend the same social events.
You can believe that, and it’s also a shit take. So primary them. I’m not disagreeing that some of them are shit, but writing the whole lot off is a bad take and it’s what leads to disinterest in people who would normally vote for SOMETHING.
It would be nice if we had multiple parties, instead of two parties controlled by the same group of people and entities.
The primary is no guaranteed method of change. The DNC is a private club. A primary vote could literally be 100% for a single candidate and the DNC could pick an entirely different candidate with no legal repercussions.
Totally, so who wants to kick off a new progressive party?
I think starting at the local level and changing the party from within is the most feasible approach.
Look at Mamdani, and various other progressives that have made it into their local governments.
I will give you a small spoiler.
All the politicians, with the exception of very very few, like Mamdami, need to be guillotined abruptly, and almost simultaneously.
Sure, that sounds great. You going to get right on that?
No, I’m getting on disability 😀
Just explaining what it would take to turn things around.
Any of them bunkers down, or slips beneath notice, and they rot the system again.
I mean, that’s part of the problem right? Some folks talk about the guillotine and yet do nothing about it.
And you assume the problem goes away if it’s possible to guillotine them all. New ones pop up everyday, guillotine today would probably work. Still need to have a better attitude about the overall problem if you want things to be better after.
You don’t understand.
This generation of elites are an unique actually. They explicitly want to wipe out humanity, have bitter resentment, and the skills/resources to do so.
It would take a very long time for more to come, we can eatablish strong anti-trust laws and try to go for a tech victory…
stopping indoctrination and protecting kids act
Hey, I want this act!
Be it of course that the act should indeed protect children from religious indoctrination
Democrats Vote To Defund Schools That Support Trans People
LOL, dems swing the other way now
Copy from another reply of mine: This is a shit take. ALL Rs voted for this. No dems NEEDED to vote for this for it to pass, but some did. If we want to make the Dem party an acutal progressive party, then these Nazi pieces of shit need to be primaried. This doesn’t make all Dems nazis…
It’s a shit system but you aren’t going to change it by 1) not voting and 2) generalizing.
Vote. For individuals. Not because they are Dem, but because you’ve dug into a candidate and found them to match your beliefs.
Fix your attitude, or the progressives will never make it.
The wing remains small, but it continues to push to grow its influence—and its most significant elected proponent is California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a likely 2028 presidential contender, who platformed Charlie Kirk on his podcast to declare himself “completely aligned” with the late far-right activist on banning trans athletes, vetoed multiple pro-LGBTQ+ bills in California, and on a separate podcast appearance appeared to entertain the idea that trans people shouldn’t transition before age 25.
This is why it’s important. This isn’t an aberration. This isn’t a fringe. It’s a test balloon. This could be the future of the party unless it’s struck down with extreme hostility. The party as a whole needs to know that something like this is not something we ignore, but something we view as a red line. As a last straw. So no blame them as a whole. Let them know that anyone in the party who supports this thinking needs to be expunged.
It’s not even a test balloon. It’s already the problem. Did you miss Kamala? Did you experience Biden? We’re you old enough to vote during Hilary?
I’m not saying this is OK, I’m saying primary the shit heads! I feel like we are in violent agreement…
Blaming everyone IS NOT PRODUCTIVE. Instead, pick candidates that fit. Your stupid blaming does nothing but smother the ones that are progressive. Vote, protest, or do something other than create disinterest with your bad “both parties” comments.
The regression in the US is just staggering. It’s like watching an empire devolve into monkeys.
STOP. VOTING. FOR. CAREER. POLITICIANS. (rep and dem alike; they are all inhuman monster pieces of shit.)
There is nothing wrong with making a career out of politics. Like any other business, the system operates better with experienced, knowledgeable people operating it. We are currently seeing the results of amateurs in office.
The difference is between Good Faith and Bad Faith politicians. I’ll take a Good Faith politician like Bernie for decades, while I am happy to see a Bad Faith guy like Fetterman gone after one term.
And this is how you lose elections.
But blue no matter who! The lesser of two evils! No one is perfect! Do you want Trump to win!? Disingenuous argument that tries to cover for how shitty neo-liberals are.
And there it is, the real reason nobody trust America anymore.
Not simply the trans persecution, people have their opinions and feeling about the topic and YADA-YADA, This isn’t about that.
It’s clear Americas politician are ok with Donald even if they pretend to hate him in front of the cameras, weak people in office only looking out for themselves. That nation can’t be trusted.
I don’t blame people for not voting, the idea I have to vote for one of 2 shit birds because “democracy” is braindead and willfully ignores the issues at hand, to the people who feel this way I would them tell them to leave the country For a socity that would appreciate them, it’s the only change they can make in their live that will actually help them.
If solidarity can only be found in the wailing and gnashing pit, then let’s get there. So many Democrats have shown their true allegiances this year.
Literal Nazi shit.
Democrats are nazi, republicans are nazi, guess we’re all nazi now.
No. Shut the actual fuck up with your both sides bullshit and listen. Banning transgender “ideology” was the first step that the Nazis took when taking power in Germany.
So dems are nazi
Those Democrats. Or should I say DINOs?
Right wing party members vote for right wing bill.
Is there anybody surprised by this? The Democrats are only “the left” by American standards. The rest of the world has them centre-leaning right wing.
Center was Clinton, now they’re right. All of them.
Bingo. There is no left party in the US, despite what MAGA has been brainwashed to believe. And, a giant issue in the US is having two parties only.
And no, it’s not that both parties are the same across the board. That’s a libertarian cop-out. There are clear policy differences.
However, one issue which unites both parties is money. Both parties are bought and sold by corporations, and that needs to be handled. Crucially: there is no system in place to allow voters to correct this.
There are two parties of billionaires with only a very small number of non-shared members, yes. Which is why the billionaires don’t really care who’s in power. They care only to push the drama that distracts the public from the reality of the country. That helps ward off the guillotines.
Yeah, agree. It feels like more than an issue with two-party voting itself in some/many ways.
The Dems used to be to the right of Canada’s Conservative party.
That’s not because they moved to the left unfortunately.
I guess we just need to vote D harder. 🤣😭
As opposed to what, exactly?
No. I’ve said the same thing for half a decade. Any candidate unwilling to form and carry out policy positions that move the party from right to left that actually benefits the working class at home and in the countries we bully aren’t getting my vote.
Did you meant left to right?
I said what I said.
And how does you not voting for a Harris hurt Donnie?
No. Voting for these types helps the far right and corrupt businesses. You put yourself in that mental prison all you want. I’m not and I’m not stupid enough to imagine it any more.
Yeah, you might want to look up Frederick Douglas.
Ex-slave, Douglas was a big advocate for abolition.
In 1860 Douglas had a choice between supporting a candidate who was for immediate abolition, or supporting Abe Lincoln. Lincoln wasn’t advocating instant abolition.
Douglas decided that it was smarter to support Lincoln. Lincoln has a much better chance of winning, and Douglas would be able to advocate his stance to the actual President, instead of being locked out.
That’s a bad example because Lincoln was an abolitionist himself but you’re applying it to politicians that don’t agree with your stance.
166 years ago, the corruption was easier to spot and check, and people with the right and will to keep and bear arms and the will and ability to use them to “water the tree of liberty” weren’t just the ignorant hicks, even if they did buy into the lie that sold the revo.
Hack job argument, it was clear to many at the time Lincoln didn’t like slavery, it’s why the south was so wound up about it near him. Douglas knew this already and tried pushing Lincoln to go for it, completely different situation. If you hate both side of leadership, leave the country For greener grasses.
You’re right that you aren’t that stupid. You’re stupider
Dunning and Kruger
Leaving that shithole.
There’s something called a primary.
Which they famously always have
Yes and right now there’s a lot of momentum favoring progressives, so be sure to vote in the primaries, and if your district isn’t running any progressives, consider running yourself
Yes. If you do the math, you’ll see that it wouldn’t have mattered if they had voted against this. So they buy political capital with the centrists by doing this. Politics is complicated. But if we give them the power to actually move things left, then they can do that.
“Centrists” do not exist amongst the American populace.
You are either courting the far-right, approximately 20% of the US population, or you are courting the entire rest of the US population, all of whom are further left than the Democratic party.
Ah… They may be “farther left” than the Democratic Party, but by world standards the average American is a right-centrist.
I’d like to believe that too, but it’s clearly not true. About 1/2 American voters voted for trump. That’s not being left of Dems. At all.
Not everyone that voted for Trump is right-wing. We can argue about effect of vote versus ideological reason for vote for decades, and people have, but the short answer is MAGA isn’t the only group that voted for Trump.
It also wasn’t half of American voters. It was half of people that cast a vote. 77 million adults voted for Trump. As of November 2024 there were around 280 million adults in the US. That’s 27.5% that caused Trump to be elected, or 72.5% of people that did not vote for Trump, not including the ~60 million children that also have to suffer and largely have been against Trump as they’ve started aging into the adult population.
Given historically Republicans represent no more than 25% of the vote (and do note most republicans aren’t actually right-wing, they’re idiots) we can assume the extra are protest votes, misguided people, idiots, accelerationists, or even just people that genuinely still believe Trump is antiestablishment for whatever reason.
Do note that most polls suggest 70-90% of the population agree with socialist and communist policies, as long as you do not use those terms; from universal health care, to unionization, to abolition of the billionaire class, these are incredibly popular ideas.
The 6 trillion or so dollars spent by the US to brainwash Americans against the words socialist and communist since 1914 has caused a mess of people voting against their own personal ideology.
Fair. (Except in my lexicon ‘American voters’ are the americans who actually vote - different from ‘eligible voters’.)
So what’s the best way forward to fix the ignorance and get progressive minded people to vote effectively?There would have to be a party of inspiring politicians that can inspire some confidence that something will positively change. People vote for change.
Obama ran on the idea that the old guard, the old government, had to be changed and he would bring in a completely different government.
So did Trump.
So did Bush.
So did Clinton.
So did The Other Bush…
And so on. The only thing that engages voters is blatant admission that the US government is horrifically formed, inefficient, and objectively is not a representative democracy by any possible definition of those words separately or together; and the promise they will fight to make it more of a representative democracy.
When Kamala Harris came out and said ‘oh the Biden administration has made everything so much better so we’re going to just do more of the same’ when every single demographic under a 400k net worth was objectively worse off under Biden than they were under Trump (yes, yes, extenuating circumstances, blah blah recovering from a global pandemic Trump would have made worse) people could not get behind that message.
When Harris promised to stay the course, her campaign ended. When Biden promised to keep doing what he was doing, his campaign ended. It wouldn’t have mattered if the bastard child of the literal incarnation of the Evangelical Christian Devil and Hitler transformed into an eldritch cosmic being that turned every person that gazed into it into a statue ran as the republican candidate, it would have won against the Harris campaign.
At the very least any candidate that wants to win has to acknowledge how incredibly awful the modern American has it. We have worse wealth inequality in the US than at any point in WORLD history. Slaves in the American South had less wealth inequality towards the richest kings of Europe than we comparatively have towards the owners of the US.
Any Candidate then has to, at the very least, pay lip service to the idea that drastic, severe, violent change needs to happen. There is no more incrementalism. There is no more ‘lesser evil.’ There is no more ‘we sacrifice our generation so the next can maybe have it better but we’re not going to do anything to realise that anytime soon.’ We are a full fucking century past that idea. We are a century deep into that idea. It has not worked. It will not work.
tl;dr Promise change, don’t have a history of promising change and then doing nothing, don’t shy away from violent rhetoric, don’t ‘play politics’ and be nice to the ruling class, don’t pretend incrementalism or lesser evilism works when we have a century of proof that it doesn’t.
(and do note most republicans aren’t actually right-wing, they’re idiots)
I don’t understand. Most Republicans aren’t actually idiots, they’re idiots. I don’t get it.
Like they codified RvW, bettered education, strengthened education, stopped secret FISA courts and data collection, bombing people overseas, implemented universal health and higher education, emptied prisons, stopped killing and locking up poors for bogus reasons, prosecuted and jailed superwealthy for poisoning the environment and killing workers. Sterengthend union rights rather than crushing a budding rail strike just before a few trainwrecks that further damaged the environment and people’s health? Jailed Trump? 🧐
They never had the power to do all of that. Yes, they are beholden to the billionaires. But they are not as bad as trump. And they can be pushed more progressive.
Like they have since FDR, amirite? 🤮
LBJ, problematic antics aside (and not excusing his foreign policy either) was a continuation of FDR domestically. An expansion even. Because while FDR abandoned minorities to keep support for his New Deal, LBJ made sure minorities also benefited from the Great Society at great political expense. Modern Dems though are just Reagan lite.
Modern Dems are right of Reagan.
I’m a registered Democrat and vote for /contribute to individual candidates I like, but I keep throwing away fundraising mail from the party itself and replying STOP to their constant texts, and this is one reason why. Regrow your backbone, folks. I know it’s in there somewhere. We’ve got to repeal Citizens United and do other things so our politicians can say no to big money.
I don’t think I can justify donating time or money to the Democratic anymore, there are few indicators the party is interested in winning and wielding power except under strict continuations of the status quo, and the status quo is now fascism so… I think pretending like the DNC will ever behave in our collective best interests has become a dangerous impediment to actually building a true resistance to fascism/rightwing extremism.
I will absolutely support individual candidates especially if they are progressive but every single damn time I see that something is associated with the party leadership of the DNC or any kind of broader national level Democratic party DC thinktank crap I immediately delete it and become just a bit more unwilling to ever, EVER give the Democratic party a dollar or a minute of my time damn it all.
For me something or someone willingly associating with Chuck Schumer or Hakeem Jeffries is equatable to something exhibiting the signs of plague, I know the thing is already brutally dead just from that indicator.
I know I am not alone on this.
The Democratic party terminally refuses to get the hell out of the way, so if we have to move it out of the way to make progress, that is what we have to do.
Oh, bullshit.
Tell me you don’t understand how anything works without using those words.
I know who I won’t be supporting but rather actively against. You don’t care about people that I love, get the fuck out.
It’s be nice if the names were all at the top of the article. But I did see a couple of names skimming through (I woke up late and we have a guest to entertain). I’ll come back to read it later to learn more.
Once again, go to hell, bigots.
