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      The #2 post on the current “top 6 hours” view is criticizing Israel. He also posted in this article offering some other sources that were more reliable that would be good for this story, and all the people complaining ignored them. Eventually one of them was reposted (somehow), and is still up. Shocker.

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          It addresses the fact that you are blatantly lying. I have no idea about Jordan’s underlying politics about Israel. I just know the observable facts about his moderation, that the replacement source he recommended for this story has been up for 3 hours, and the second-to-top post is something you are insisting is impossible. And you don’t really care, you’re just insisting that there are five lights vigorously and repeatedly. You are lying on purpose. Why?

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            Listen here, you little shit. He literally interviewed for an article and said he opposed BLM because they were an inconvenience to him. And I don’t give a shit what he’s saying now to throw off people, I’ve seen him say zio shit on more than one occasion, and you don’t just suddenly give up being a right-wing twatwaffle.

            Jordan Lund is a vile, racist, zionist piece of shit, and anyone who defends or supports him is sitting at the table with him and accepts those labels for themselves.

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              What a coherent and sensible response.

              I guess that’s probably your best option though. What else are you supposed to say? You can’t exactly say the screenshot is fake, or that what it shows isn’t blatantly contradictory to what you’re trying to say. I guess just “listen here, you little shit” is about the best response you have available lol. I think most of the time, you’ll get some hostility back in return, and then it just becomes “oh God people are yelling at each other,” and the factual message gets muddled up.

              I am still very curious why you (and a bunch of the other “usual suspects” accounts in these comments) are so determinedly lying about this. You clearly don’t actually care about the article itself, or else you would be upvoting it, commenting under it, generally… I don’t know, something. But instead you are over here, determinedly creating the fiction where Jordan Lund censored it. Why?

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              No, I oppose BLM for two reasons:

              1. The protests where I live serve no purpose as everyone here agrees with them. They’re preaching to the choir to make themselves feel better instead of taking the protests where it might actually matter.

              2. They only care when the Black Life in question is taken by a white cop. 9 year old girl killed in a gang crossfire? BLM is fucking silent. Either BLM or they don’t. Be honest about it.

              Hear about Kaylah Love? No, of course not, because BLM doesn’t give two shits about Kaylah Love.

              https://abc7chicago.com/post/kaylah-love-death-loved-ones-hold-vigil-honor-16-year-old-girl-killed-east-garfield-park-chicago-police-investigating/16074414/

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                They only care when the Black Life in question is taken by a white cop. 9 year old girl killed in a gang crossfire? BLM is fucking silent. Either BLM or they don’t. Be honest about it.

                BLM was a response to cops of all races taking the lives of black people, not just white cops. Your example is of someone who was murdered, but not by the cops.

                You should try reading the news more.

              • This is a frankly bizarre take. BLM is a protest aimed at the government (specifically the police apparatus). They already investigate gang criminality (your link specifically mentions that the Chicago PD is investigating). So as far as BLM is concerned, that’s the appropriate response and the government is doing its job? What is there to protest here, it’s not like gangs are going to go “oh shit look BLM is protesting, better stop all our criminal activities”. You should feel sympathetic to them not protesting this, because the protest would be heard by people who already agree and by people who don’t care (see your own “preaching to the choir”-argument).

                BLM protests disproportionate police action usually aimed at black people, because it’s not how they think the government should act, nor do they react appropriately afterwards. That’s their pretty singular purpose.

                Your argument boils down to a strange combination of whataboutism and a strange attempt at gatekeeping “standing up for the civil rights of minorities”, which I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen someone else attempt tbh.

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                Sorry dude but that’s a pretty bad take. BLM was never about gang violence. It was about systemic racism and murder of black people by police. The idea being Black Lives Matter (too) because noone was giving a fuck about the disproportionately large number of black people murdered by police without repercussion or the slightest media coverage.

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                  Find a story where BLM is remotely interested in a death not caused by a white cop. It’s cool, I’ll wait.

                  Should they change their name to “BLM*”?

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          Gee, because I’m neither?

          As I stated in the last thread:

          If you think I’m a zionist when my personal opinion is we need military intervention in Israel to force them into a two state solution, then I’m doing my job correctly.

          Nobody has the balls to roll soldiers into Israel, unfortunately.

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              That’s ye olde definition and was true for decades which is why Biden said “I am a zionist”. The meaning has changed greatly since Israel’s war crimes became apparent.

              My favorite bit on this… Following 9/11 one of Bush’s arguments for invading Iraq was that Saddam Hussein was in violation of 17 or 18 UN resolutions.

              At the same time, Israel was violating close to 100 due to their actions in Lebanaon, Gaza, and the West Bank. It would have been more than 100 except the US has veto power on resolutions.