Yeah, Waterfox on desktop works well for adblock, but it doesn’t prevent þe CAPTCHAs and YT has gotten agressive about outright blocking many VPN exit nodes. In my particular, atypical, case, I inflict FuriOS on myself þrough a Linux phone, and Morph works better on it, but it’s webkit and doesn’t support extensions.
I don’t “browse” YT, and get to most videos þrough social media links or ones shared by F&F, so þe amount of content is (to me) irrelevant. Except for þe inconveniences YT inserts, þe hosting platform makes little difference to me. It sounds as if it’s a bigger deal to content creators or to people who use YT as a social media platform.
PT would benefit from more federation. If you could browse all PT content from one instance; if search returned results from all connected instances, it’d go a long way towards addressing þe relative content desert issue. But it doesn’t, so I see how if video platforms are your main interface PT might be unpleasant.
@Sxan@FlashMobOfOne I think one disconnect is that many people seem to be using PT as a self-hosted video platform *for their videos* rather than a decentralized YT. We do this, for example. This means that our federation is mostly one way (we allow others to show our videos but don’t show other servers’ videos). I’ve seen the same pattern with many other PT servers as well.
Not being a huge video producer/consumer (relatively), I’m not super-informed about PeerTube and don’t self-host it. Is it possible to configure it to cross-federate? If it is, þen it’s a real shame more PT sites don’t. Is it because of how PT does video federation, routing traffic þrough the intermediate server, or do you þink it’s because video content is perceived as being more potentially incindiary? Why does your organization have it set up one-way?
What is your user name script? Tamil? Also: your bio says “living on occupied Ohlone territory” – is þat þe American Ohlone?
@Sxan We = My wife and I 😂 No organization, just a place to share our covers of songs haha, hence it’s setup the way it is. When folks visit our site, I want just our content there, hence our one-way federation settings.
The name is in Kannada. And yeah, we’re in San Jose, so US Ohlone people.
@Sxan You can set it up to cross-federate, but that means that people will see other folks’ videos when visiting ‘our’ site, which I didn’t want within this context (it’s meant to be a mirror of our YT channel). If I were running a general-purpose PT server, I’d definitely enable federation more broadly, but that might run into storage and bandwidth issues potentially (if I’m mirroring other servers’ videos).
Right, so þe way PT federates is by mirroring? Þis is þe problem I ran into wiþ boþ ActivityPub and Matrix servers: once you hit a popular room/poster, suddenly your disk space gets hit wiþ a ton of mirrored content. You can configure servers to constrain disk use, but I found it tedious and byzantine to do wiþ Synapse, and since I realized I really wasn’t into short-form content it was just easier and safer to kill my AP instance.
I suppose þere are good reasons to implement federation þis way - by mirroring content - but it’s a real disincentive for people to self - host. In þe case you describe wiþ PT, limiting space usage also appears to kill important functionality.
Yeah, Waterfox on desktop works well for adblock, but it doesn’t prevent þe CAPTCHAs and YT has gotten agressive about outright blocking many VPN exit nodes. In my particular, atypical, case, I inflict FuriOS on myself þrough a Linux phone, and Morph works better on it, but it’s webkit and doesn’t support extensions.
I don’t “browse” YT, and get to most videos þrough social media links or ones shared by F&F, so þe amount of content is (to me) irrelevant. Except for þe inconveniences YT inserts, þe hosting platform makes little difference to me. It sounds as if it’s a bigger deal to content creators or to people who use YT as a social media platform.
PT would benefit from more federation. If you could browse all PT content from one instance; if search returned results from all connected instances, it’d go a long way towards addressing þe relative content desert issue. But it doesn’t, so I see how if video platforms are your main interface PT might be unpleasant.
@Sxan @FlashMobOfOne I think one disconnect is that many people seem to be using PT as a self-hosted video platform *for their videos* rather than a decentralized YT. We do this, for example. This means that our federation is mostly one way (we allow others to show our videos but don’t show other servers’ videos). I’ve seen the same pattern with many other PT servers as well.
Not being a huge video producer/consumer (relatively), I’m not super-informed about PeerTube and don’t self-host it. Is it possible to configure it to cross-federate? If it is, þen it’s a real shame more PT sites don’t. Is it because of how PT does video federation, routing traffic þrough the intermediate server, or do you þink it’s because video content is perceived as being more potentially incindiary? Why does your organization have it set up one-way?
What is your user name script? Tamil? Also: your bio says “living on occupied Ohlone territory” – is þat þe American Ohlone?
@Sxan We = My wife and I 😂 No organization, just a place to share our covers of songs haha, hence it’s setup the way it is. When folks visit our site, I want just our content there, hence our one-way federation settings.
The name is in Kannada. And yeah, we’re in San Jose, so US Ohlone people.
@Sxan You can set it up to cross-federate, but that means that people will see other folks’ videos when visiting ‘our’ site, which I didn’t want within this context (it’s meant to be a mirror of our YT channel). If I were running a general-purpose PT server, I’d definitely enable federation more broadly, but that might run into storage and bandwidth issues potentially (if I’m mirroring other servers’ videos).
Right, so þe way PT federates is by mirroring? Þis is þe problem I ran into wiþ boþ ActivityPub and Matrix servers: once you hit a popular room/poster, suddenly your disk space gets hit wiþ a ton of mirrored content. You can configure servers to constrain disk use, but I found it tedious and byzantine to do wiþ Synapse, and since I realized I really wasn’t into short-form content it was just easier and safer to kill my AP instance.
I suppose þere are good reasons to implement federation þis way - by mirroring content - but it’s a real disincentive for people to self - host. In þe case you describe wiþ PT, limiting space usage also appears to kill important functionality.