oh i am so saving this up for the next time my idiot brother tries to invite me to a libertarian convention
I’m just going to keep posting this in response to every “I hate AI but” crusader I see in this community. It’s perfectly encapsulates what they’re doing.
Is that Monty Python?
Butt trumpets are a real thing that are seen in medieval manuscripts.
images as proof spoilered so as to not take up the whole damn page
the reference image:
some more i enjoyed
[above this point were from here], the rest are just random off-brand googles
That turned into
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Cats
And I’m here for it/them/they/those/uin’s.
i cannot post medieval art and not post medieval and renaissance cats. it wouldn’t be prudent.
No AI needed for this type of event flyer, only stupids do so.
I never thought I would miss photoslop.
A few of my high school alums set up a zoom meeting where we could discuss plans for our 20 year reunion next year. I jumped on doing the graphic design, because I’ve been doing that and stuff adjacent to it since like 2002. While we were discussing roles they said “well we don’t want to overburden you with all the graphic design stuff so others can do some designing the flyers and banners too” and a guy in the group chimes in like “yeah I can do that, I’m probably just going to run it through ChatGPT though, not gonna lie” and inside I’m just screaming.
I gently said that I am okay with doing the graphic design work, I’d just like to avoid the use of AI and there was an awkward silence.
I mean, I jumped on the graphic design role also for the express purpose of preventing the use of AI in the planning of the visual media surrounding this event. All the AI-generated company logos on vans and billboards, promo art on mailers that I see in my day to day life SUCK. There’s no soul behind it. I wanted to prevent that here.
I figured that since I’ve done this stuff for decades and that I’m doing all this for free, they’d be fine with it but like, why do people have to insert AI into everything?? flails
The publicly funded mobile theatre we have around here used a damned AI flyer this year. In the past, they just used pictures of their past performances as a background for their flyer. It looked professionally done - as did it this time. They hired a professional to make an AI flyer.
They hired a professional who cut corners
Not even just that! They included that the picture was made with AI in small print on the flyer. So it was a concious decision by all involved.
Send The Prompt
Just Send The Prompt
bonus points if the venue also advertises itself as the most gentrified club in your area!!!
Seems kinda over the top. Not everybody has design chops, nor artistic abilities - never mind the event itself should be the focus, not how all the myriad promotional details are put together. What’s more important to focus on?
ETA: Don’t get me wrong: what they’re passing off as “AI” sucks in so many ways, but it can be useful in areas not requiring reliably factual output. Outside of having briefly tried it a few times in the past, I don’t even use it myself.
EDIT 2: I’m done here. I’ve made my points in several ways across numerous comments, and too many of you seem incapable of looking at things objectively. Latecomers with an open mind are welcome to read my comment history to see what I’m talking about, but I will not be responding to all the closed-minded angry mob types anymore. There’s little more I can say that I haven’t already.
I agree with you. I wouldn’t use it myself but it also depends, if a friend or a person made it for a party or something small, no big deal. But if it’s a corporation or a big event, that tells you a lot about the quality of the event itself, so I would agree with the OP in that case and wouldn’t go.
People managed to do it without AI before a few years ago, they can continue to do so.
I’m sure similar was said about computers vs typewriters, calculators, etc. You’re not wrong, but the more expedient path tends to win out in the end.
You’re just full of shit, aren’t you? This is at least the
thirdfourthfifth time under a single post you’ve responded to me with this same childishness. Grow up.dude all i heard was you asking for this
You’re just full of shit, aren’t you?
Let’s hope not, or that woman’s gonna have a bad time!
Yes, but computers, typewriters, and calculators had the ability to produce useful and aesthetically pleasing things while not destroying the planet in the process. I know, people will use it for things like this regardless, but there is no good excuse for doing so due to the enormous downsides.
To a point, I don’t disagree. Reality does reality things, however - whether people like it or not. Otherwise we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
I’m not disputing that they will do these things, I’m just stating very good reasons why they should not.
Yes, the energy needs currently are absurd, but I’m sure the earliest building & room-filling computers were the same — while we were far less conscious of the energy consumption at the time. Things improved eventually, and this likely will as well. I agree it shouldn’t be used nearly as much as it is being pushed in its current form, but the reality is that it will still be used nonetheless.
If they are so lazy and disorganized that they cant hire an artist for the literal thing that gets people to come, why would the rest of their event be any good?
Ah yes let me hire an artist for my checks notes Children’s birthday party.
“Sorry little Bobby Tables, I can either hire a union artist or get you a present”
What happened to using Word or Doc to make a shitty flier?
You don’t need AI for invitations to a child’s birthday party. Use clip art!
excuse me but these invitations have to have fold out 3d dinosaurs or i won’t look as fancypants as the rest of the parents.
“lazy and disorganized”
Presumptuous and judgemental much?
cant hire an artist
Never worked under an extremely limited budget, huh?
why would the rest of their event be any good?
Because they expended more time and effort on ensuring the event was good than they did the flyer, maybe?
Okay, so you’ve proven you’re a troll - congrats, & reported.
Shut it, shill. Your opinion is trash.
edit: Fwiw, i am a performer and refuse to use ai in any of my promos or pieces. If i cant make it or pay someone to make it, i just figure out something else. Absolutely pathetic that people think this way now.
Your “all or nothing/my way or the highway” opinion is what’s trash. There’s nuance to be considered in everything if you care about what the actual truth of any particular matter is. Yes, there are limits to how far down that hole you should bother to go, but you’re not even acknowledging it’s there.
thank mr buttal
doot doot!
K.
Presumptuous and judgemental
If I see someone litter on the street, I’m going to assume the worst of them, because littering is bad. If I see someone kick a puppy, I’m going to assume the worst of them, because kicking puppies is bad. And if I see an event using “AI” for its promotional material, any of it, I’m going to assume the worst of it, because using “AI” is bad. There are certain things that, when done in view of other people, will almost universally turn them against you. Your own promotional material should not be one of these things, but using generated images makes it such. If you don’t have the time or money for a fancy flyer, you use simple word art tools (of which there are many free online), or even just print out a paper with information in plain text. Even that would endear more people to your event than using an image generator.
If you can use AI, you can also use a photo.
As long as you have one that you have the rights to, while also being appropriate to the task at hand, sure. Look, I’m not defending what’s erroneously being called “AI” (it’s just seriously overdone pattern matching against an immense library of texts - an extremely significant proportion of which are of very dubious quality, which is why it gets so much wrong), but in a pragmatic sense it does have some legitimate possible uses.
Speaking of rights:
Most AI is trained on copyrighted material without permission.
So if not having the rights to a photo is holding them back, then that should also hold them back from one of those AIs, they don’t have the rights either.
Good to see you yet again have nothing of value to add to the discussion.
But you are defending it, that’s the point. You are trying to explain some kind of legitimate use that doesn’t exist. Everyone has a camera, everyone can take a picture. And if you can’t do it, maybe you don’t need one at all - that’s the most common case. Why does every bonfire or flea market suddenly need a full colour image of some distorted resemblance of said event?
I’m not defending the over-the-top hype about it, but from a pragmatic perspective it’s obviously capable of doing some things that are useful such as the flyer above. Yes, we should be very judicious in its use, but that doesn’t mean it’s completely useless.
You might not notice it, but you are part of that hype and are defending it. As I said: It’s not a requirement to have art on your flyer. But now AI cultists are making it one.
And you assume that I’m an “AI cultist” because I’m not rabidly fighting it as so many here are. If we don’t acknowledge it has some potential for some uses, then we are going to be left even further behind on the technology curve than we are already making ourselves. China is quickly taking over the leadership role from the US in so many spaces it’s dizzying. Acting like a bunch of angry mob luddites is not going to help minimize that fact - in fact, it only helps China’s aggressive moves.
You can’t be serious now. The only use we have discussed here and that you keep defending is illustrations for flyers. If anything China is gaining an advantage because people are using AI for stupid stuff like that here. So you are either kidding or trying to build a straw man.
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He’s no bull.
Damn that’s a good point. I remember the days before genAI when events just didn’t have fliers unless they were run by artists. That was definitely how things were up until 2022.
Damn, that’s a good point. I remember how people were able to get about using horse and buggies. We don’t need all these cars, trains, etc.
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We don’t need cars, actually, you’re right about that.
Just paste your prompt into Photoshop and make a poster out of that. If you can write words you can make a flier.
Which, amusingly, is using “AI”.
(Just had to respond to this bit of amusing cognitive dissonance.)
??? Pasting the words you would have used to prompt an LLM into the text tool is not “using an AI”. Are you being dense on purpose?
Oh how I look back fondly upon the days of ClipArt flyers made in MS word, feels like everyone’s forgotten about it
we still get old magazines and make collages for ours (with the letters all cut out like ransom notes. they’re awful i love them)
I’m old enough to remember when Print Shop drove a very significant number of printer sales. I’ve not forgotten that option, but nowadays far fewer people have printers, let alone these kinds of apps.
Most people’s local libraries have printers and usually access to software like that, if not there there’s always Kinkos.
Which is how I’m assuming they’re getting these printed regardless of how they’re created/generated. My point was that people often don’t generally have these things on hand where they’re working on them. I haven’t used a library computer in a very long time, but so far as I know they’re usually very locked-down devices suitable only for Web access.
Again, my point is that - assuming it’s not a big-budget event - they’re trying to do this quickly to avoid taking too much time away from all the other aspects involved in planning & setting up such an event. The idea is just to get the word out, not make a masterful presentation on paper about it. For quick one-off out-of-the-daily-routine tasks, I can understand going this route.
I haven’t used a library computer in a very long time
Perhaps you should, my local library has a 3-D printer and a milling machine… Libraries have changed.
a CNC milling machine or a manual one? and what kind of materials are you allowed to work on?
cool either way though!and the 3D printer is neat too, but do you have to sit there and wait till it’s done or are you allowed to leave? also do you happen to know what 3D printing software do they use?
I haven’t stepped foot in a library in a while, as you can tell. But I think it’s neat they’re keeping up with new technologies with (I’m as assuming) public funds.
It’s a small CNC machine, I’m not aware of the limitations off the top of my head.
You can checkout time on the printer and they have a person on staff who will do it for you if you don’t know how.
They also have workshops where you can come and learn how to use the machines and software.
Several of the branches around here also have fairly robust media libraries as well, with CDs, DVDs, Blu-ray’s, etc. and you can checkout ebooks from their website.
That’s great to learn, but a bit off topic.
You don’t need to be the master at graphics design to make it and it can be as simple as using Mircosoft Word, Libreoffice Writer or Canvas. They may not be professional but I will take that over someone using generated AI as at least they put the effort in
Canva uses a lot of ai. You’ve got to be really diligent on there now and you can’t possibly expect regular people to be doing that.
Missing my point. There’s a lot involved in planning & setting up an event. Assuming a small number of people (or just one) are putting this together with limited time to devote to it, I think it’s reasonable that they focus more of that time on the event itself than figuring out the promotional material if they can avoid it.
EVENT TITLE
DESCRIPTION OF EVENT
TIME OF EVENT
Bam I made a flyer for an event in ten seconds that fits everything you need it to. AI is enriching the worst ghouls of our era, will further enable the police state dystopia, and also kills the environment everytime it’s used.
