Anyone else remember then being the cool new thing instead of a mandatory one?
We can boycot banks that mandate android/ ios apps, we can put phones in faraday cages, we can form new cell operator companies, we can form unions and increase their political power and whilst the republican seats of power atrophy we can guide them by active participation into compassionate forms so they dont become a source of backlash. We can support companies like pinephone and librem for small handhelds if we want, we cant support risc-v, we can use gnu guix and bolster its usability to verify the validity of the software stack.
Say it again for the people in the back.
I would be happy with a Nokia 3310 with Signal and Matrix support.
Idk about that specific one but people have turned other Nokia models into cyberdecks. Might be worth checking out.
On Symbian?
It really cracked me up 15-20 years ago when there was a fair amount of panic about the government / world order microchiping people at more or less the same time that everyone was starting to pay to carry around GPS devices that listen to you.
50 years ago, everyone was afraid to be spied on by the soviets or the US, now its “Hey Wiretap, find me a recipie for pancakes”.
I’m pretty sure the US and the Soviets were spying on everyone they could, enemies, allies, and their own civilians.
This is exactly what Orwell feared TVs would become when he envisioned telescreens. Took a little longer for it to come to fruition. What’s fascinating about the novel that people over look is that the older generation in 1984 tend not to own them because they’re resistant to new technology just like today. So they aren’t really mandatory. Like smartphones.
This is exactly what Orwell feared TVs would become when he envisioned telescreens.
Especially considering how some smartphones already have under-display cameras.
I think the Party members were required to have telescreens, but the proles were not because they were seen as unimportant and incapable of organizing a rebellion.
Correctly assumed by my recollection.
The number of places that expect you to download their app to do business with them, or sign up with them, is beyond disturbing.
I now actively try to make their life difficult. I’ll ring up,.or try to order at the counter. I had a table at one place, and rang up and ordered pick up. Better service than I was getting lol
And then I pull out my wallet and try to pay with cash and all hell breaks loose 🤣
I spent 30 minutes looking for an item at Microcenter.
I got someone to help look. no good, can’t tell you where it could possibly be.
called up and ordered it for pickup, came back 30 minutes later, there it was at the pickup desk.
My experience getting help is complete opposite. I love microcenter. Lucky to have 3 of them within 45 min of me.
Ohh yeah, I love them, that guy didn’t last long there :)
Same for me. Super helpful staff. I frequently have to wait a minute because they’re helping someone else, but if I hang around in their aisle they ask if I need anything as soon as they’re done with the other customer.
When the subject comes up I have often said that cell phones are what we avoided in the PC space when the IBM BIOS was reverse engineered.
It has been a disappointment to me that so many smart otherwise tech literate people have seemed to not be able to see the tech industry, and others, putting the digital noose around out necks with smart phones.
We are not too far away from entire brick and mortar businesses being off limits to someone whose only smart phone is not an iPhone and does not pass Googles Play Services Safetynet checks for an app and the only method to pay they have being cash or a physical credit card. That is wild, and something that should worry nearly everyone that has a vested interest in being able to live their lives without being under the thumbs of private corporate interests if they so choose.
And that is before even getting into the even more concerning parts of modern phones which take all of the above and make it scary by replacing private corporate interests with governments.
Nothing good ever comes from getting in a position where you have to interact with, or obey, another party and they get to set all of the terms.
Cash and card payments are perfectly fine for all of my in-person shopping needs. I don’t use a phone for banking or paying
not my fault your phone isnt cool
Hopefully, I will someday be able to buy a Linux smartphone that is truly controlled by me.
GrapheneOS with no Google play services/sim is the best experience currently available
The year of the linux phone.
I wish it could actually happen. But corporate has learned a lot from the 90s and early 00s. They are lock in experts that won’t let that happen easily.
postmarketOS has been making strides ever since Google announced they’d kill
sideloadinginstalling 3rd party apps.The list of phones is growing, I hope they get something high end up there. Current gOS is best because I want a phone with a good camera.
I’m building a cyberdeck
I was watching a show the other day where the wealthy protagonist got his phone thrown to the grown and smashed by someone and he freaked out because it was a $200 phone. I think the episode is like 10 years old or so. Phones used to be cheap to own as well as cool.
I dropped $250 on an HTC Apache in 2006 and thought I was quite fancy.
Ack most phones are really expensive now. But I pretty much just use mine for comms, personal organisation. I have never paid more than 300 for a model and i typically buy a new one every 4 or 5 years. Crazy seeing models priced at 2k or up though.
I have my blue and grey Nokia still.
When I was on my way home from work on the subway, I just tried to fill the screen with a snake the whole time.
I still hope for a cool game to be included when I buy a new phone. Spoiler: there is no cool game included
I still remember the day I beat Brickbreaker on my 2007 Blackberry. It was a glorious day in my personal gaming history that may never be surpassed
Yes! I remember being obsessed with Samsung Note phones because they were for power users and had so many cool features. The Note 9 was the last smart phone I actually was excited about and I kept that thing for 5 years. I got the S22 Ultra and it was cool but by that point Samsung had removed all the cool hardware features from their phones (thermometer, barometer, iris scanner, finger proximity sensor [could do really cool mouse like actions by hovering your finger above the screen], and a bunch of other cool features).
Now I have the Pixel 8 pro and slapped GrapheneOS on it. The OS is really cool and so technically amazing but I could care so little about the actual device it’s loaded on.
Sounds awesome! I remember being blown away when my friend showed me the IR camera on his Cat phone, which could see footprints. (He had a Cat phone because he’s very clumsy and drops his phone every single time that he ties his shoes.)
Beyond cool hardware, I had a Huawei P30 which came with a really good “augmented reality” ruler. It was quite accurate. And it had a nice IR transmitter that could act as a legacy remote (Xiaomi also does this but their software is not as good).
Now I have a Pixel and holy hell is it too large for its own good. Supposedly a compact phone.
How is the P8P with Graphene? My P8P has been absolute hell lately, with constant wifi disconnects and calls break up every minute or so. I wanted to like this phone coming from OnePlus but honestly it has felt like Google just seem to pop out new phones and leave the old ones riddled with software bugs.
I’m not a huge privacy person, more like mild so I haven’t heavily considered Graphene but I’m getting fed up with this one haha
You can’t exist without a smart phone now. I went to a baseball game and refused to install their app for the ticket (which couldn’t be purchased with cash). They said they can text a link to a QR code. Printing it wasn’t an option.
I should have asked what I could do if I didn’t have a phone but I suspect their head would explode.
At Costco, you can’t get in line at the optical center. unless you use a phone camera to shoot the QR camera. I hate that: for most of my life, I was phoneless, and now I am obligated to pay for a service and device that I don’t care for.
Really? I haven’t personally run into anything at Costco that needed a smartphone, though I admittedly haven’t used their optical center.
Yup. Went there to get some new glasses a couple days back, had to figure out my smartphone’s camera feature on the spot. An old lady also had to be taught by someone how to do the QR thing.
I don’t like it. The haves and have nots of the world will be determined by smartphone status.
Welp, I guess I can never use their optical services then.
Yeah, I essentially can’t go to most concerts anymore because of the “mobile only” ticketing.
I was actually able to buy paper concert tix last November at a major arena. I wanted them for a gift. I had to go to the box office during a sporting event. He told me to keep it on the down-low because they are only supposed to print them if there is a very good reason like equipment failure or something. And he still said I had to give him my phone number. Not sure whose number I gave him though.
Yeah I can’t do tickets cause my Ticketmaster account broke and won’t send me emails anymore. I can’t get into the venue any other way or I have to spin up all new accounts for the monopoly machine
I remember when it was socially unacceptable to be glued to your iPhone when you go out with people.
I remember when I had to leave my GameBoy in the car…
i missed the pokemon red, blue, gold and silver versions
I had no idea what Pokémon was in 1998, but for some reason the dude at Walmart or wherever convinced my mom to buy Pokémon Blue with my atomic purple GameBoy Color for Christmas and the rest is history.
I’ve been playing crystal “legacy” edition on my phone. Been a great return to it.
I remember when no kind of mobile computing was available to anyone other than corporate execs.
It still is, people are just offending at a high rate.

I was probably one of the last to hold onto a dumbphone because all I then needed was text messaging. But then the phone was starting to fall apart due to age, and it wasn’t easy having it, a sketchy digital camera, and a beat-up Shuffle and my clients were inching up the tech tree.
15 years later I keep two separate personas: one for the smartphone because you have the fucking suits expecting the face of a compliant lemming, with nothing incriminating whatsoever; the other is only on my computer, the one having more freedom to express dissent. Neither device are to be connected together in any way.
And should to join any form of general civil disobedience, better carry a dumbphone and a digital camera.
Neither device are to be connected together in any way.
Then make sure not to have them on at the same time in the same place.
I want my jailbroken iPhone 6 back.
That thing was sick. Simpler, yet more customizable than iOS currently is.
And I realize everyone probably has a “things were better back then, shakes fist” opinion, but I have reason to believe my exact setup would blow kids’ minds, transported forward in time.
…Other than the camera. For sure. I’d give kids a mirrorless camera to go with it, and it’d still be cheaper than a modern top end iPhone.
Actually it’s not just the nostalgia talking! Things actually are worse
Read about this in today’s Corey Doctorow blog post: https://pluralistic.net/2026/06/11/lapsarianism/#nostalgia-is-a-toxic-impulse
And I realize everyone probably has a “things were better back then, shakes fist” opinion
At some point, we have to start admitting that things were just better before. A lot of technology/software peaked ~15 years ago. Before it started sliding into the fucking mess we have these days.
Some yes, many no.
Linux drivers? Nowadays you can plug almost anything in and it just works. 15 years ago it may have not been possible to make it work.
The amount of self-hostable open-source software now beats everything from 15 years ago.
Yeah, the self-hosted and FOSS side of things will forever be improving, but corporate shit just gets worse in terms of UX. I mean even FOSS projects have awful UX sometimes as they try copying corpos and their web apps.
I am not using corpo software for about 6 years now, with Jira/Confluence being the only exception at work, but Windows was never very user friendly. People joke about Linux not being friendly, but it was mostly that those people were used to Windows. But even in Win95, while being better than anything before, and most things after, it wasn’t a bastion of UX.
I just got a huge nostalgia blast of the days running Cydia on my iPod Touch 3rd gen. I’d customize Winterboard, install emulators, pirate games. The little, touchscreen computer in my pocket truly felt like it was mine! Then I got a Nexus tablet, hopped on early Android, and felt even more free to use my device how I wanted. Fast forward to today and I feel like some sort of criminal running Graphene and just hoping F-Droid repos exist after Google locks down Android. Tech is way less DIY and hella dystopian, as we move into a full surveillance state and compulsive identity verification. But I digress. Now I’m just rambling and depressed about the future of tech. Thanks OP. 🥲
It’s weird to think of Android 4 as “early Android”. For me that was the peak.
Indeed. I was a little late to use Android. Jelly Bean was my first real experience with it.
I do what I can.
Time to get an android and start tweaking it.
I remember when people were soyfacing over Delta emulator e lease a few years back even though jaolbroken users had access to it for over a decade
Where did it go?
I honestly have no idea.








