• Jankatarch@lemmy.world
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    “It’s ethical to fund the israeli military as long as I donate for fixing a small amount of the damages they cause, right?”
    - The global north.

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    You’ve gone really deep into the politics of hate if you want the people you claim to support to continue suffering so they’ll useful tools to be used against the people you hate.

    It is good to help Palestinians, and I hope they can rebuild. But apparently the “pro-Palestinian” crowd doesn’t want that.

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    So are you arguing that Canada should not fight the symptoms as long as they also can’t solve the cause?

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          Canada is already imperialistic in Palestine by cooperating with Israel and the US, which is its role in that imperialist project. Imperialism isn’t just “when big bad guy invades with troops” like in your Saturday morning Star Wars cartoons, it’s a system of power the functions to subordinate other groups of people to the benefit of a privileged metropole so that the resources on the land those people exist on can be extracted (as well as their labour). Or do you think it makes you sound like a pragmatic realist to pretend you’re too dumb to know that?

          Canada literally hosts companies that are Israeli owned or contribute to Israels genocide campaign and the state invests in Israeli businesses, the fucking CPPIB increased its investment in Israeli businesses, which amounts to tens of billions of dollars; how fucking much of a performance does dedicating a fraction of that to “aid” seem to be to you now?

          You aren’t a serious person, stop talking about serious topics.

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          The by-the-books-written-by-imperialists non-imperial answer is a UN peacekeeping mission. Canada might provide the mission with troops, but they would be operating under a UN mandate, likely to enforce a two-state solution with hard-specified borders. All this would take is for the US, UK, and France to not veto a resolution to organize a peacekeeping mission.

          The isolationist non-imperial answer is to stop funding Israel and see what happens.

          The actual anti-imperial answer is to give land back to native people, replace capitalism with voluntary association, and decentralize military infrastructure, so people that live in Canada are resilient to invasion but their capacity to project force is limited to individual initiative with the support of a community.

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        Yeah, there’s no chance that Canada can “fight the cause”. The only way to do so would be to declare war on Israel, and therefore the US, which would very quickly result in us no longer being able to even think about the symptoms we were previously trying to treat.

        • Clocks [She/They]@lemmy.ml
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          Declare war, Expend more USA resources, further pulling it apart, be remembered as a nation who stood for justice, and with a valiant population.

          0 downsides listed here.

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            Being dead is a downside. Being taken over by the US is a downside. Wasting any and all global influence we may have had on a completely pointless flameout is a massive fucking downside.

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          Given our commitment to standing up for middle powers, it does make sense that we’d get involved in the war on the side of Iran/Lebanon.

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            There’s absolutely zero fucking chance Canada gets involved on the side of Iran. Even without the fallout from the US, the Canadian public would be justifiably livid.

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                You might be suicidal, but the vast majority of the country isn’t. And even if the US wouldn’t just curb stomp us, I (and a lot of other Canadians ) would be furious with our government supporting any theocratic government. And yes, I do include the current Israeli government in that statement.

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                  I wasn’t the Canadian leader who said we need to unite middle powers to fight super powers when they get picked on.

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      They do this because they know it will enable the continuation of both this genocide and the capitalist system perpetrating it. Stop acting like you don’t know why they do this shit, why else would you voice your question in such an obviously manipulative way?

      Vile.

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    And, btw this is only part of some international spending by Canada that I’m not sure people were asked about or agreed to.