Hi all,

Im looking for some input/advice/help. I came out as trans some month ago. Its been on my mind for 15+ years and it feels great to finally have come out.

But I always have an extremely hard time internalizing stuff, and very much so in this case. This worry that “i might not be” keeps eating away at my brain and I dont know where to turn to ask for advice.

Ive tried to get more in touch with my feminine side and I absolutely love it. The initial gender euphoria was crazy. Ordering new clothes and ripping off the old mask of trying to meet the masculine ideals that was expected of me has been so freeing.

However, i havent come out at work or to my family yet. So i do have to put that mask back on almost daily. Some days really suck. Seeing myself in the mirror ranges for masc stubble nightmare to still seeing a version of me that I like (which I have never done before).

But something in my head keeps bugging me. A little goblin inside telling me “what if youre wrong?”, “what if youre actually not trans”, “you dont feel that bad when youre still looking masc”, “youre not that dysphoric”.

The gremlin has always been there in other scenarios but this time is giving me so much issues with my headspace just due to how important this whole journey is to me.

Does anyone have any advice? Is this normal? Is it common for people to deal with fantasy creatures in their head? Should I rethink my life choices?

I have no idea where to turn with this one but atleast tried to book a time with the only therapist/doctor ive met whos been able to properly talk about gender dysphoria. Although im afraid of how much I can/should say because trans care sucks here and I really dont want to be left out of the opportunity of actually getting help.

  • chloektboehnchen@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    19 hours ago

    I had the same thoughts after the first wave of euphoria post-egg-crack was over. They stayed with me for a very long time, I think even now they occasionally pop up. When I started HRT I even told myself I would constantly reexamine how I felt with the effects. But after a few weeks on hrt I just knew. For the first time I felt some sort of connection to my own body and from then on it only got better and the “goblins” got quieter and quieter.

    I think it’s healthy to keep questioning to some degree, but the best way to deal with this is probably to just keep exploring. You can always stop if it doesn’t feel right anymore. And sometimes it just takes some time to get used to things, no need to panic if something feels weird at first.

    Also, what I needed to realize was, that gender and gender presentation are a spectrum: You don’t have to be hyper feminine or gender conforming to be Trans. You’re allowed to have “masc” hobbies and interests, you’re allowed to dress masc or femme or neutral or both, you don’t have to like makeup. Only you decide and define what your gender is. For me it was also helpful to explore non-binary gender identities. In the end I still identified as a woman, but I found it helpful to free myself from expectations that come with that label for a while. Finding out what your gender is not, can help narrowing down what it actually is. And your decision doesn’t have to be final.

    So I guess what I want to say is: it’s totally normal to have these thoughts, if you keep questioning yourself and do what feels right you will end up with the right result for you. But don’t let the doubts drive you crazy.

  • Nat (she/they)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    15 hours ago

    What if you’re wrong? No really, what would happen? Not much, probably. The stakes for being wrong are pretty low if you’re anything like me. You can always go back to before if you want. You can deal with that if and when it happens, it’s not a huge deal, so don’t let that stop you. Also yes, that worry is very common.

    In some ways I was wrong about my transition. I’ve changed in ways I couldn’t have predicted before (e.g. being less binary trans than I initially was going for), but I couldn’t have known that without the journey and I don’t regret it. What got me started was reframing it from “am I right?” to “what can I do to make myself happier?”, which made transition suddenly an obvious move.

  • renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net
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    1 day ago

    As others have said: Yes, this is absolutely normal. It’s totally healthy to introspect and investigate yourself—which is probably how your egg cracked in the first place.

    Rather than worry about labels and whether you’re “worthy” of them, just focus on the specifics of your transition. What things bring you euphoria? What things don’t? Follow that and no matter where you end up on the gender spectrum, it will feel right to you. You don’t need to find the right box to fit in, you can make your own.

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    1 day ago

    I struggle with this constantly. I really don’t have the dysphoria but I feel so much happier in girlmode. I question it alot, often wonder if I brainwashed myself somehow. But I try to remind myself I’ve felt this way for a long time.

    I have often told others I believe we are all on a sliding gender and sexuality scale, and I’m pretty 50-50 male-female.I’m identifying as bigender for this reason, it’s also just easier to be honest. I don’t know, maybe I accept the male side because I’m used to it, because I don’t absolutely hate my meat suit. But then again, I’m super happy in girl mode and the more I see all the beautiful woman here and the before and after the more I wonder what I would look like. My mother obvi but still

    I’m only out to my wife and a couple of friends, and can’t currently girlmode at all because of my living situation. Definitely not ready to leave the house, but I’ve picked out an outfit for exactly that occasion.

    I say all this to let you know you’re not alone. It is normal to struggle and question. Just remember, would you have come here and asked the questions if it wasn’t real? Why would you choose the difficult and potentially dangerous path if it wasn’t real?

    ♡♡♡Nissa♡♡♡

    • Nulliza@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      1 day ago

      Hi, and thank you. I feel practically everything you’re describing. It is hard to describe it. Some days my gender identity feels super obvious, some days I question why I dont feel more terrible when it doesnt align and some days I do feel terrible when it doesnt align. I guess its alot of the “going back and forth” that makes the struggle hard for me? Like, 5/7 days a week I live in the old flesh suit since Im at work (I do just now realize that, even if I dont feel terrible every day im there, i do always long for getting home and re-dressing 😅).

      Theres a huge pride parade nearby next weekend and Im determined to go out in fem clothing for the first time 😬❤️ Wish me luck, im super excited 😅❤️

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        22 hours ago

        I did that last weekend! It was my first time out in girlmode and it was incredible. No one cared how I was dressed, in a good way, and it felt so calming and peaceful to be myself in public surrounded by other queer folk. Best of luck and have fun!

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        1 day ago

        YAY!!! Good luck, you got this!

        One of the most important things to remember, that really helped me in the beginning, is there is no wrong way to be trans. You do you, whatever that means, as long as you’re happy you’re doing it right

  • Domi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 day ago

    Hey Nulliza! I’m going to write you an essay, i hope that’s okay.

    Firstly, yes! Your experience is really really common. Like really really common. There is a great book that helped me called “Am I trans enough” by Alo Johnston. It really helped me when i was in your position. The author writes that imposter syndrome is so common to the trans experience it might as well be listed as a symptom of gender dysphoria.

    I also highly recommend the gender dysphoria bible if you haven’t been there already. Apart from a lot of very useful facts, it contains several tweets from trans people, where you might see your experience being reflected.

    The fact is, for most of us, we didn’t just “know”. There was no magic fact I could point to that made me sure. Every transition starts with a leap of faith. In fact, every day is another leap. My therapist told me that transitioning isn’t one decision, it’s thousands of decisions, you have to keep making them every day. You can stop at any time if you don’t like where you are going.

    The popular story about “what it’s like to be trans” that we receive through the culture is often one of kids cross-dressing since they were toddlers, where there were obvious signs right from the beginning. I think that story persists because it’s palatable for cis people. They can point to that and clearly separate themselves from it so they don’t have to think too hard about their own gender. My experience is nothing like that.

    I never recognised my experience as gender dysphoria, I just hated myself. I felt just total nothingness when i saw my masc self in the mirror. It was the euphoria of trying to feminise myself for the first time that made me start to recognise my previous baseline for what it was. You’ve already reached that part of your journey.

    As time has gone forward, the “evidence” has just stacked up for me to the point that calling myself cis at this point just feels silly. It turns out that cis people are barely thinking about their gender at all, let alone googling “am I trans?” and writing in trans comms asking for advice about it. Cis people actually quite like being their gender. They don’t long to be another, they don’t feel giddy with joy when someone calls them by a pronoun other than the one they were trained to use from birth. They don’t feel a rush of intense euphoria when they break out of the prison of their assigned gender for a split second and taste free air for the first time.

    When the doubts creep in, ask yourself “if i could just press a button and permanently switch gender, and there was no fuss, and everyone just called me by my new name and used my new pronouns as if I had always been that way”, would I press it?

    Another good strat is to read through the effects of HRT and ask yourself if you want them? I remember once thinking to myself “if I’m wrong about being trans and I take hormones for no reason, at least I’d have a more femme body”. Yes that’s very cisgender thought Domi.

    Nobody knows, nobody can decide for you, follow your joy. Wishing you the best.

    • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.com
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      The popular story about “what it’s like to be trans” that we receive through the culture is often one of kids cross-dressing since they were toddlers, where there were obvious signs right from the beginning. I think that story persists because it’s palatable for cis people. They can point to that and clearly separate themselves from it so they don’t have to think too hard about their own gender. My experience is nothing like that.

      Honestly, I fit a lot of the narrative and still had not the slightest clue I might not be a boy until I was nearly 30 when I finally figured out that I probably wasn’t “technically cis” as I had described myself before the realization.

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        Your story really shows how powerful the ambient expectation to be cis can be. It’s all around us to the point that we miss signs because our mental models sometimes don’t even include the possibility of being trans.

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          Transphobic mental models

          Tbf, part of my story is my mom is the most oblivious egg ever just because of her own mental model of gender is simply whatever bits you are born with and nothing else.

          I think she still thinks all women want to be men?

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      “If I’m wrong about being trans and I take hormones for no reason, at least I’d have a more femme body.”

      I’m stealing this thought, it’s glorious and I love it. It’s mine now.

      (No really, are you ok with me putting it up in my Lemmy bio, like a quote? (With or without credit, if you prefer))

    • Nulliza@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      1 day ago

      Thank you so much for this comment. I do have atleast some of these thoughts but just a very hard time accepting my own answers as valid for some reason. The tone in this message is perfect and very much resonates with me, so really, thank you very much for this ❤️

      • Domi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Hey you’re so welcome. And you’re welcome in here. Be kind to yourself okay? There’s no rush, you don’t need to decide now where you’re going to be in 10 years, one step at a time, check in with yourself often. And seek out community where you can find it, online and IRL if possible. Nobody should go through this alone.

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    Other people have given much better advice, I am recently out as well but I just want to chime in and say that you’re not alone there and I have felt this way as I have gone through my own journey, I think this feeling may grow with the amount of time it takes to make your realization, you said it was 15 years that is quite a long time living as a straight person or asexual person. There is a book I found at the library which might be of interest to you it’s called Finally Out: Letting go of Living Straight, and it’s written by a doctor who didn’t realize they were gay until later in life (40s) and it goes through a lot of these doubts, it’s not about being trans in particular but the advice is still very applicable for all LGBTQIA+ peoples I think. Love and luck

  • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.com
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    I went through that for years and even still felt like that 2 years after realizing I was trans and coming out to a couple people. For me, it was more useful to consider what I wanted to to with the knowledge that I’m bad at predicting how I’d feel about some things without just trying it and not worrying about the specifics of the labels. No clue when such thoughts became rare enough to say I never had them anymore.

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    cool you had the strength to be honest with yourself! :)

    my instant help is to ask myself, how i’d feel if i decided now, that i would live the rest of my life as a guy/under the effects of testosterone.

    that usually helps very quickly. at least i know, that i do not wantbto live that guy life.

    • Nulliza@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      Thank you! I have tried that but I feel like Im so used to being “detached” from myself that it doesnt really feel that terrible, although not right. I do know very surely that I would prefer a feminine body over a masculine one though. That is very apparent to me. I have had extremely litte or no interest at all at expressing or being perceived as masc.

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        I do know very surely that I would prefer a feminine body over a masculine one though. That is very apparent to me. I have had extremely litte or no interest at all at expressing or being perceived as masc.

        that seems like a very clear vision though. :)

        is it that you lack a ‘direct’ and clear feeling, that corresponds to this notion? it’s like that for me, sometimes. i guess what i do is remember all those moments i was happy presenting fem. on the other hand, and that’s maybe the most powerfull for me is trying to think of dysphoric moments. (like the above mentioned thought experiment)

        i try to find moments in which i was sad to be perceived as a man. it might be important to say that i frame these with a “that will change soon” attitude so i don’t drown in the dysphoria.

        if thats doable for you, make a list and relive sad (or itchy) and happy times. for me it feels that through decades of repression there is a lot to be evaluated and processed for the first time. a lot of it is under the ice, but i am working on that :)

  • Shirow@lemmy.zip
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    Hmmm. I mean, what if you are “wrong” what is stopping you from just stop transitioning?

    The effect that could be permanent is fertility ( probably not if only a few months, I haven’t seen a lot of things about that and for me it wasn’t a problem since I didn’t care) Well, also growing boobs. (In that case well surgery is a thing). Probably expensive depending where you live, then again it takes a bit of time to grow.

    Don’t get me wrong I had the same questions and to be honest all of this stopped when I started HRT and could feel again. That’s the way I would put it.

    And no, dysphoria isn’t only about not being enough dysphoric. I felt this way, and I felt empty too for a while. And when you’re getting used to this, low is you new standard. You know you can be lower so “it’s not that bad”, it’s not ok either and now I see it.

    I would even say since I transitioned dysphoria amplified because I could foresee the changes that I couldn’t fathom as an egg.

    I had a few good moments as “masc” (then again wouldn’t it have been better if I could transition before? There’s no way to compare).

    When I transitioned a lot of things finally made sense in my past. I started working on my own traumas and mental health, my physical one too because I wanted to feel better too, to take care of myself finally.

    Edit : I hope this message helps you! And congrats for putting words on your feelings too!

    • Nulliza@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      Thank you for the comment. I think the “irreversible” thoughts might make this feel more like a life-or-death situation, but you are entirely right.

      And you might be onto something. Ive been at the very least curious about exploring femininity for atleast 16 years. I grew up in a pretty old-fashioned small town and I dont even think I heard the term “trans” until high school. So alot of my teens was just confusion regarding why I didnt like my body and feeling ashamed for wanting to explore my feminine side. The environment was also reflected in my parents and although I felt, atleast then, that they were more well-read and reasonable than most people around there was still not communication or outwards acceptance to anything outside the “old societal norms”.

      I tried to keep up the masc appearance, socially and visually, but that never felt right. The solution, which I guess was basically just to survive, was to just wear anything baggy clothes and oversized hoodies so that I didnt have to witness my body. And I guess I just got used to that? I mean. It never felt “good” to dress up but atleast it wasnt terrible. Also, since I didnt like acting masc I usually stayed away from most guys being overly masc, the football dudes acting up and playing macho was terrible so it usually ended up with me hanging out with the weird kids or the girls. Which felt way more at home.

      I did have a wild experience when I got my first dress and my partner did my makeup, I think thats the first time I looked in the mirror and thought that I, me, not my clothes but actually my face, looked beautiful. So yeah, might just be used to the lows as you say? That also adds up since i have now noticed the “bad” days where I only see my old features in the mirror and that is a very noticable shift to the bad vibes.

      • Domi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I did have a wild experience when I got my first dress and my partner did my makeup, I think thats the first time I looked in the mirror and thought that I, me, not my clothes but actually my face, looked beautiful.

        I’m saying this with love, because I’m also saying this to my past self:

        Sweetie that’s really not very cisgender of you :) <3