• someone@lemmy.today
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    2 days ago

    You know what would help this situation?

    AI

    Lots and lots of AI.

    Also more religion.

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      1 day ago

      Don’t blame everything on the data centers. Everything else is doing its part in contributing to climate change.

      Apart from that data centers, at the scale at which we seem them pop up now, are way too young to have a considerable effect on the current heat wave. Which doesn’t mean that they won’t in the future. Climate change is, after all, a decades long project

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        12 hours ago

        Absolutely. It’s not something new nor caused by something new.

        But trump has cut a lot of green laws for data centers. And power plants.

        And the sheer amount of additional heat and power consumption these data centers that are running, are using is insane. Akin to adding another few states worth of power and pollution in a span of a few years.

        Of course that much additional heat and green house gasses makes a difference. I mean, my understanding is we are probably already past the point of fixing it.

        The best we can do is completely stop green house gasses now and hope the extreme consequences only last a few hundred years.

        But trump and these data centers are currently undoing all of the progress that has been made (here in the U.S anyway).

        Not that much progress was made. But there were corporate interest efforts.

        I mean let’s be real. The epa regulations were still absurd before Trump cut them, and they never fine anyone even though it sure seems like literally every company has been lying about meeting those restrictions.

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        Its a millennia long project.

        This is another reason why geoengineering is such a bad idea. Even if you stumble onto something that works without killing everyone, you have to consistently do it for many centuries.

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      Yeah, the dummies said “bet” and no one has curbed their child rearing to reduce overall impact.

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        Eugenicist, vile shit to say. The problem is the capital owners and billionaires/trillionaires, not the poor “idiots” breeding too much you absolute weapon.

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      Yet those most affected by heatwaves are elderly and chronically ill people who can‘t afford proper cooling technology.

      It‘s not hurting those in power, it‘s hurting those already marginalised.

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        Europe (alongside the USA and other countries of the “western world”) has been releasing disgusting amounts of climate change-inducing gases since the 18th century, and they (alongside the USA) were the main profiteers of climate pollution until the latter half of the 20th century. Arguably still are, though other countries like China and Brazil also play a part now.

        Granted, this treats nations as monoliths, it’s not like the population of most countries really had a choice for the most part.

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            The fact that Aviation and Maritime transports are visible, alongside large countries and continents emissions, is absolutely nuts.

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            Nice of you to side-track with current emissions (per capita even), and not cumulative historical emissions, which were actually mentioned.

            Feel free to compare different countries yourself: https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions-metrics (I’m not sure why ourworldindata doesn’t just put all of this on one page instead of splitting it up. It’s always a hassle to find the right one it even is on the same page, I just didn’t look close enough) The more interesting comparison might be high-income vs low-income countries.

            To get back to the discussion: Yes, Europes share is not as huge as it used to be, and it’s getting lower, but what can be seen from @Tehdastehdas@piefed.social graph is that that’s less due to Europe behaving better and rather due to other countries polluting more. Not a good argument for saying “Europe is doing better now”

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            Right now, yes, but for the vast majority of history it wasn’t even close. Your link shows that China only met the EU’s per capita emissions in 2013, when climate change was already pretty far along. And they are still profiting from their past emissions via the wealth and societal development that they generated back then.

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              That’s fair, but you can’t deny Europe has done much better than its counterparts for more than 2 decades. Europe is not the guilty one there.

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                But, consider this: there was a time from before two decades ago. There are rumours that there are even people who are older than 20. Scary, I know.

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                  So you’re blaming mistakes made more than 20 years ago while forgetting those who were made since? Totally objective and fair opinion…

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    2 days ago

    That bottom image is, like, the most aggressively chic weather forecast I’ve ever seen.

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    “I feel better!”

    “Shutup, you’re dead.”

    cat in background, being swung, yowling

    “Actually, might go for a walk.”