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    9 hours ago

    You can just look at what happened after the Epstein files were released. If it had happened in the 70s, there would have been mass upleavals. Today? Disgruntled people moaning on the internet. Nothing much.

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    14 hours ago

    He’s right. And that statement is a huge indictment of both his party and the propaganda it spreads. He’s just too stupid to realize it.

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      47 minutes ago

      Its by design. Fox ‘News’ was borne out of the shame of Nixon’s resignation and the desire for an all powerful executive. They hate the American Republic and democracy in general. It’s also when the right started the southern strategy in earnest to coopt the religious and then moved to lock in SCOTUS. The strategy sadly was telegraphed for decades and dems didn’t take it seriously or rather the took money to look the other way. And here we are today with possibly the worst set of GOP leaders history has produced led by the worst President of all time tearing the US apart.

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      3 hours ago

      He’s not stupid.

      If anything, he’s gloating.

      “… and what are you gonna do about that?”

      Nothing. JD is a 4chan shit poster with a Yale degree and pretty high competency at whipping basically the Asmongold fandom into being gungho for MAGA, that’s why he is VP, its a reward for being such a good Republican/Trumper online psyop commander.

      He, extremely intentionally, helped build the media environment he is here commenting on.

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        VANce is there to do THiels bidding, once thiels bounces fromt he usa to argentina, i suspect he will lose influence pretty quick.

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    15 hours ago

    Okay, for how many weeks has Epstein been a story? Just to estimate how much worse it is compared to Watergate.

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    17 hours ago

    LOL, he’s telling on himself and the cons.

    The Faux News scheme and unleashing hate radio were both done to try to prevent any future consequences for Republican crimes like Watergate. Of course, the Internet further fragmented things.

    Of course, the “legacy media” corporate media was already far too right wing anyway, but the zone got flooded with radically far right wing propaganda masquerading as news.

    Surely “JD” “Vance” knows this.

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      3 hours ago

      its given how much even the non-right wing news are just issuing copaganda, militaryganda itself. like how cnn has consistently reminding people of “the troops that died” near the end of the news segment everytime. this was before 2016.

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    Vance is an idiot. But on this point he is right. And that is by design of leading Republicans and Rupert Murdoch, that set out on a plan to achieve exactly this. That a Watergate situation should never destroy a Republican President again.
    And it worked already under Reagan.

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      they learned from the watergate instance, and was working OT for the past 40+years of removing that stigma. REAGAN AND then fox/limbaugh was the final straw.

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      3 hours ago

      I don’t even think he’s an idiot.

      Evil? Oh hell yes. But 95% of the time he is just saying stupid shit that inbred MAGAs want to hear, or that will make old guard Democrats stammer and guffaw at… (which is the desired effect, they just look privileged and haughty and holier than thou when they do that).

      The funny part is when they think he believes in anything other than how smart and cool he is.

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      Except that he’s arguing that it wasn’t news worthy, and the “deep state” made a big deal out of nothing to destroy Nixon’s presidency.

      In other words, don’t believe your lying eyes.

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        20 hours ago

        The thinking is done for you.

        Like WTF? Republicans have been training sheep all along, it’s not just a saying, it’s literally true!!

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          considering most of the voters very low info, and dont even follow up on gop politics, as how it affects thier state, economy thier laws,etc, except to vote for this one issue, that makes sense.

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      17 hours ago

      Yup. Ronnie Raygun had the most criminal administration in history - at least up until Donvict’s anyway - by objective measures.

      And then topped all of that criminality with Iran/Contra.

      Also, I have no idea how the October Surprise theory was ever considered “absurd” by serious adults: https://jacobin.com/2023/03/ronald-reagan-jimmy-carter-1980-election-october-surprise-iran-hostage-conspiracy-theory

      And I’m sure their schemes did something to blunt what was arguably much, much worse than Watergate. Another part might simply be that boomers had less fire in their bellies at that point and were flipping over to yuppiedom.

      Most narratives today only mention Watergate, and forget about Iran/Contra. I would not be surprised if most of Gen Y and younger are not even aware of Iran/Contra, which is a shockingly brazen crime.

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        I have no idea how the October Surprise theory was ever considered “absurd”

        Disgusting, typical scumbag republican move. 🤢

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    20 hours ago

    It’s like the power level creep in Dragon Ball Z with corruption instead of fighting strength. Watergate is some Raditz shit but we’re dealing with Cell and have Majin Buu on the horizon.