People that try to shame or attack others for their preferences come off as sad and petty to me at best, and borderline fascist at worst.
There’s endless systemic injustices and harmful ideologies to spend your energy fighting - stop trying to convince me to be angry at age gaps, men that prefer shaved armpits/pussies, women that prefer tall men, etc, etc.
I swear some of these people still want fascism, they just want it on the opposite side of the spectrum.
They be fair, the whole hair and woman thing is part of thelarger systemic injustice that women face. It’s one of those things where societal norm and personal preference blur together. It’s a tough one, for sure.
That said, I’m with you on the whole we’ve gone too far limiting peoples preferences and choices. It’s our differences and unique qualities and makes the world interesting (and possibly better).
I mean I get why some women choose to keep their body hair and I think that’s rad, but at the same time they can’t be upset if a man chooses not to get involved with them because of it.
People have preferences, and no one complains when women have grooming standards for the men they do stuff with
That’s fine as long as you don’t make a big deal about men who only date women based on their physical characteristics and their performance of traditional gender roles…
Okay, well if you’re gonna make a big deal about that then you can’t complain when men make a big deal about women choosing men based on their physical characteristics (i.e. full hair, height, build, etc.) and performance of gender traditional roles (i.e. provider, protector, etc.).
You can’t have it both ways, that’s called a double standard and hypocrisy. Either people can choose whatever they want in a partner and it’s no big deal, or no one can.
Stop trying to cherrypick every situation to have the best of both worlds and gain the most advantage for yourself. Have some logical consistency.
I did not cherry pick. I picked your world, where you can speak your mind, I can call you a dumbass, and you can call me a soyboy cuck or whatever you find most arousing that day.
Free speech, baby! No law against being a dick! No law against calling it out when you’re being a dick!
Why are you claiming that’s my world? That sounds more like your world. You’re the one arguing that, not me.
So you’re a free speech absolutist, then? What makes you any different from Elon Musk?
Sure you can call me a dumbass if you want, but then if you turn around and complain when I call you a dumbass then you’re a hypocrite with double standards. That’s the only point I’m trying to make here, so stop embarrassing yourself by projecting.
I get the societal norm angle when we’re talking about armpits/ legs because you can see those. A girl could go to the beach and see all the other women/girls having shaved legs / armpits and feel gross or ugly for being the one with hair there and feel judged because it’s on display.
With pubes though you’re not going to see others so you don’t know the norm or have as much expectations on how a women should look, and other people, besides intimate partners, aren’t going to see yours so you don’t feel as judged.
So it’s more of a matter between the women and there partner rather then society, which can be addressed in an abusive manner, but can also be addressed in a healthy communicative manner.
Historically, women have been thought of as property of and existing for men. That manifests itself all sorts of ways, including but not limited to huge pressure to look and act in a way that projects submission or weakness (and conversely huge pressure to find weakness attractive). The hair is just one example. So, is it truly a preference or is it more of a social norm?
People that try to shame or attack others for their preferences come off as sad and petty to me at best, and borderline fascist at worst.
There’s endless systemic injustices and harmful ideologies to spend your energy fighting - stop trying to convince me to be angry at age gaps, men that prefer shaved armpits/pussies, women that prefer tall men, etc, etc.
I swear some of these people still want fascism, they just want it on the opposite side of the spectrum.
They be fair, the whole hair and woman thing is part of thelarger systemic injustice that women face. It’s one of those things where societal norm and personal preference blur together. It’s a tough one, for sure.
That said, I’m with you on the whole we’ve gone too far limiting peoples preferences and choices. It’s our differences and unique qualities and makes the world interesting (and possibly better).
I mean I get why some women choose to keep their body hair and I think that’s rad, but at the same time they can’t be upset if a man chooses not to get involved with them because of it.
People have preferences, and no one complains when women have grooming standards for the men they do stuff with
Totally. I only dated tall wealthy men with a full head of hair for the same reason. 😉
That’s fine as long as you don’t make a big deal about men who only date women based on their physical characteristics and their performance of traditional gender roles…
No no, we can make a big deal about it, that’s free speech too. 😄
free speech only means your government wont persecute you for saying it. Your neighbors can still burn you at the stake though. (metaphorically)
Okay, well if you’re gonna make a big deal about that then you can’t complain when men make a big deal about women choosing men based on their physical characteristics (i.e. full hair, height, build, etc.) and performance of gender traditional roles (i.e. provider, protector, etc.).
You can’t have it both ways, that’s called a double standard and hypocrisy. Either people can choose whatever they want in a partner and it’s no big deal, or no one can.
Stop trying to cherrypick every situation to have the best of both worlds and gain the most advantage for yourself. Have some logical consistency.
I did not cherry pick. I picked your world, where you can speak your mind, I can call you a dumbass, and you can call me a soyboy cuck or whatever you find most arousing that day.
Free speech, baby! No law against being a dick! No law against calling it out when you’re being a dick!
Why are you claiming that’s my world? That sounds more like your world. You’re the one arguing that, not me.
So you’re a free speech absolutist, then? What makes you any different from Elon Musk?
Sure you can call me a dumbass if you want, but then if you turn around and complain when I call you a dumbass then you’re a hypocrite with double standards. That’s the only point I’m trying to make here, so stop embarrassing yourself by projecting.
I get the societal norm angle when we’re talking about armpits/ legs because you can see those. A girl could go to the beach and see all the other women/girls having shaved legs / armpits and feel gross or ugly for being the one with hair there and feel judged because it’s on display.
With pubes though you’re not going to see others so you don’t know the norm or have as much expectations on how a women should look, and other people, besides intimate partners, aren’t going to see yours so you don’t feel as judged.
So it’s more of a matter between the women and there partner rather then society, which can be addressed in an abusive manner, but can also be addressed in a healthy communicative manner.
Most women’s swimwear requires maintenance of pubic hair to wear without getting bikini spiders.
How come not sleeping with me is systematic injustice. People have preferences and often unrealistic expectations, but it’s not the root of injustice.
No, it is a symptom or piece of it.
Historically, women have been thought of as property of and existing for men. That manifests itself all sorts of ways, including but not limited to huge pressure to look and act in a way that projects submission or weakness (and conversely huge pressure to find weakness attractive). The hair is just one example. So, is it truly a preference or is it more of a social norm?
You will munch on shag carpet and you will like it, you ingrate!
See, that’s exactly the kind of thing I want to hear.
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Wait this is about shaved armpits?