While speaking on the final night of the GOP midterm convention, Vice President JD Vance said the country was “poorer” and “dirtier” before President Donald Trump was reelected for a second term.
“We were tired of being called racists for noticing that our country was becoming dirtier and poorer, and less safe and less prosperous,” Vance said on the final day of the two-day convention in Dallas, Texas.
His sentiment appeared to reflect the administration’s efforts to combat rising immigration rates in the U.S., a key campaign point during the 2024 election. Vance himself promoted unsubstantiated claims about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, in September 2024, spreading misinformation about the community abducting and eating pets.
Nobody has made America dirtier or poorer than MAGA has.
American workers have been getting poorer since the 1970s.
Every President, bOtH pArTiEs, American workers are poorer.
Poland now has better benefits for their people, with benefits that most Americans will never see (and they’re paid almost as much, with less taxation, on a smaller budget).
Family leave (41 weeks!). Vacation time (20 days!!!). Universal healthcare. Sick leave. “Occasional” leave, for the love of God. Sounds nice.
I guess their labor party can do so much more with so much less, for some reason.
https://www.dudkowiak.com/employment-law-in-poland/employee-benefits-in-poland
Translation: Republicans are tired of being called racist for being racist.
You realise that this is still better than republicans don’t mind being racist, which is still better than republicans being proud to be racist.
They love being racist, they just don’t claim it.
This isn’t why they were called racists. They were called racists for claiming that Barack Obama wasn’t American, for trying to build a wall to keep out Central and South Americans, and for banning immigration from countries where most people are Muslim.
Let’s not forget “they’re eating the cats”
Do you think they’re arguing in good faith?
I wouldn’t trust Vance on faith matters, good or otherwise. This is a man who thinks he’s Catholic but disagrees with the Pope on some pretty basic stuff.
You should look into what’s happening in France.
The billionaires are the only group of “welfare queens” making the world a dirtier place.
Whether or not America was “dirtier and poorer” before Trump is immaterial here. Ascribing that to immigrants and people who look like immigrants is racist.
I’m sure they are tired of being called racist, but that doesn’t mean it’s not true.
It also wasn’t “less safe”, violent crime has been dropping for quite a while in most areas
No the FBI changed the definition of violent crime under Biden administration and have specifically ignored certain areas to bias the numbers.
Even if we pretend that is true, the statement you are responding to is about statistics that predate Biden… by decades. Violent crime has been going down since the 90s. On average people are probably safer today than they were fifty or even thirty years ago.
Is there a place I can get the raw data? That’s what I want raw data
When I showed you evidence of the Iron River getting thousands of Mexicans killed under American-made guns, 30,000+ of them every year plus another 20,000+ if you count the depression, misery and poverty an environment like that causes, the cardiovascular and neurological diseases it causes on the poorest and most vulnerable, and how angry I was at that injustice, and the fact you have killed my family in the Middle East and Mexico, you kept gaslighting and then replied with this:
Why should anyone give a MAGA like you raw data? You are a piece of shit who denies reality.
Nice! I shall see for myself
When I showed you evidence of the Iron River getting thousands of Mexicans killed under American-made guns, 30,000+ of them every year plus another 20,000+ if you count the depression, misery and poverty an environment like that causes, the cardiovascular and neurological diseases it causes on the poorest and most vulnerable, and how angry I was at that injustice, and the fact you have killed my family in the Middle East and Mexico, you kept gaslighting and then replied with this:
Why should anyone give a MAGA like you raw data? You are a piece of shit who denies reality and ignores the deaths of minorities.
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Also, not to engage with the point too much, but what do they think of Muslim immigrants? Ethnically speaking, people from that culture is particularly strict on cleanliness.
When they say dirty, they don’t actually mean hygiene. They mean melatonin.
I mean I know what they think of them, sigh, I don’t know who I pretend there’s even a kernel of a good faith argument here
‘I only fuck white couches and sofas’
The origins of the pet eating accusation is some woman complaining her cat was missing and accusing their neighbour of eating it. The cat came back the very next day.
The cat came back It couldn’t stay away Meow kitty Meow so pretty Meow what a pity But the cat came back
Dunno if these are the exact lyrics but close enough…
Ah perpetual victimhood
Yeah, that’s racist.
“Poorer and dirtier” says guy proud to claim that he was raised as white trash.
source: was also raised white trash, but did manage to develop class consciousness.
says guy proud to claim that he was raised as white trash
Guy who was actually not raised as “white trash”, and who has been lying and changing his tune constantly throughout his public life.
Elvis Jell-O molds are MY CULTURE, VANCE, NOT YOURS
Exactly. A true conman at heart.
congrats on starting your journey to recovery.
Weird. Why does JD tie those two things together in his mind? I mean, if he’s not racist?
Racist doesn’t like being called a racist. What kind of rebrand are they asking for, nazimaxxing?
The Turd Reich
Racists.
And I’m tired of being called a woke blue haired sjw socialist get the fuck over it pussies.
It’s so still so bizarre to me that a social justice warrior is supposedly like a bad thing.
I’ve come to understand it as is used, but on its own I still expect people who are hearing it for the first time being like hey that sounds pretty awesome, someone who fights for social justice in this shit hole world
It’s not that surprising. Language has been doing it for ages, probably forever.
A “bleeding heart”, mocking someone who is too empathetic. A goody-two-shoes. Terms have always been made for people that “indulge” too much into something regardless of whether it’s the polar extremes of acquiring money or donating it.
If you’re just surprised at the name, then idk, shit’s gotta have some kinda name.
I said it’s bizarre to me.
You said it’s not that surprising.
Do you understand the difference in our 2 opinions?
Mine is a personal opinion, while you arrogantly tell me I’m wrong to express my personal experience.
Think about that for a second while you reread our 2 comments.
Your choice for words determines how people understand you.
I don’t see where I said you’re “wrong to express your personal experience.”
But you’re a literal stranger to me, and there’s no accounting for “taste”. Such is life.
You said “It’s not surprising.” As a statement of fact. As you wrote it, it offers no leeway for an argument or an opinion and that means you are saying I’m wrong.
The way I see it… in my mind… I don’t think…I think that… You didn’t say these any countless ways to allow for my opinion to be anything other than wrong.
You chose words that didn’t allow for any other opinions in direct response to me clearly stating an experience i am currently having and have held for decades.
That’s pretty rude. Unintentional or not, that’s what you did with your word choice, or lack there of.
This is text, you have the responsibility to clearly say what you mean. You chose not to
“It’s not that surprising.” is what I wrote. It’s the very first sentence.
Not that surprising. A relative phrasing requiring the first measure to be a benchmark, e.g. “yeah, it’s kinda sad but not that sad.”
So hung up on what I “said” when it seems like you misread and misinterpreted it.
“It’s not that surprising” and then I gave examples of how you could reframe “social justice warrior” into the long history of people mocking well-meaning people who were viewed as excessive…
Well, do you have blue hair?
Yes, this is the important detail.
And pubes! don’t! count!
I’m tired of fielding this very frequent question, that I get often.
Just the ones on top of your head. And/or a tattoo of hair, if you’re follicularly-challenged.
