I work in healthcare. Majority c-suite at hospitals, clinics, or practices have both a science masters or doctorate AND a business degree. Same goes for directors and most managers.
Healthcare is one of the largest industries. So you’d be excluding tens of thousands in Manager and above.
You’ve made a false assumption I’ve only worked at one hospital. I’ve work a several and I currently work for a health tech company and regularly communicate with operational and clinical leaders at multiple hospitals. Our software is currently in 2000+ hospitals in the US. Plus several thousand surgical clinics and infusion centers.
The point is, even if you worked at several, it’s impossible to give an accurate estimate based on your own limited observations. Like you said, it’s a huge industry. I don’t mean to offend but I think a person working in health care should at least know a bit about levels of evidence and the like.
Running your software at a lot of places also doesn’t tell me much. You’ve made a failed argument from authority. No need to double down on it.
Healthcare software is implemented by clinical and non clinical professionals for the software company.
The c-suite leadership signs the contract, which we meet and learn their science and business credentials.
The clinical and non clinical folks then work with the directors and managers who lead workflow. We once again learn of their science and business credentials.
There’s no failed argument here. You’re making false assumptions and stomping around like you’re correct. You aren’t.
Bottom line when it comes to health care the vast majority in leadership and c-suite positions have mainly science degrees (MD, PH.D, DPN, MRN, APRN, MRN) with most, but not all, having a business degree as well.
All you’ve proven is that you don’t know how healthcare organizations work or are structured.
I haven’t made any assumptions. All you’ve done is make assumptions that I’ve been making assumptions.
I get that you’ve met a bunch of health care C-suite. It’s just not that impressive. Your reiterated statement doesn’t tell us anything but the fact that you don’t understand what the basics of the levels of evidence that we use in medicine are. Nor what biases are, like your own confirmation bias.
If you’re going to reiterate the same bullshit that has nothing to do with evidence based practice. I’ll just reiterate my correct statement:
Bottom line when it comes to health care the vast majority in leadership and c-suite positions have mainly science degrees (MD, PH.D, DPN, MRN, APRN, MRN) with most, but not all, having a business degree as well.
FYI, if you look up any health organization, you’ll see how many people have medical degrees. You clearly don’t work in healthcare and clearly haven’t communicated with anyone that does.
Honestly surprised I’m even carrying on this conversation with an obvious retard.
the same bullshit that has nothing to do with evidence based practice
Your claim has nothing to do with evidence based practice. I never said it did. However the concept applies to a broader range than just clinical research or EBM. And if you claim to work in health care you should know something about it when working in health care and you should refrain from statements that go against this concept.
Bottom line…
Bottom line is you haven’t provided any evidence for your claim. All you’ve done it restate a well-known logical fallacy like a broken record and pout when someone doesn’t immediately fall for it. I think:
“Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results”
…applies here.
You clearly don’t work in healthcare and clearly haven’t communicated with anyone that does.
I’m an MD, PhD, so actually yes, I do. You on the other hand, work for a software company that happens to provide software for health care facilities. So in fact, you do not. But all of that is irrelevant, since I don’t believe that either of us can tell this from our respective personal encounters with the C-suite.
If someone doesn’t believe your claim, you look for evidence backing that up. You don’t go telling someone they’re an idiot for not believing you. To show you how that may look, I will start:
So, now we have found an apparent expert – since neither of us are – it seems the cards are shuffling differently. He doesn’t provide any evidence either, so this brings us up to level C. If you have something better I wil gladly take a look.
And to humor you – because again, one health facility doesn’t say anything about the other thousands – I’ve looked up the executive team of the TMC and found one MD, one PhD and one MPH among a whole assortment of business majors, management and legal studies.
Maybe it’s time to drop your arrogance a bit. The fact that you can’t tell a doc from an obvious retard who obviously doesn’t work in health care isn’t doing you any favors.
They are 100% in the example, but rather implicitly than explicitly.
And the engineer or scientists C-suite are probably a small minority. Most are business majors.
I work in healthcare. Majority c-suite at hospitals, clinics, or practices have both a science masters or doctorate AND a business degree. Same goes for directors and most managers.
Healthcare is one of the largest industries. So you’d be excluding tens of thousands in Manager and above.
I don’t think you’ve seen the majority of C-suite in hospitals and other health centers just because you work in health care.
And it’s a large industry, but it’s only one among thousands.
So this is an assumption stacked on top of an assumption.
You’ve made a false assumption I’ve only worked at one hospital. I’ve work a several and I currently work for a health tech company and regularly communicate with operational and clinical leaders at multiple hospitals. Our software is currently in 2000+ hospitals in the US. Plus several thousand surgical clinics and infusion centers.
Did I make that assumption? Where?
The point is, even if you worked at several, it’s impossible to give an accurate estimate based on your own limited observations. Like you said, it’s a huge industry. I don’t mean to offend but I think a person working in health care should at least know a bit about levels of evidence and the like.
Running your software at a lot of places also doesn’t tell me much. You’ve made a failed argument from authority. No need to double down on it.
Again making assumptions.
There’s no failed argument here. You’re making false assumptions and stomping around like you’re correct. You aren’t.
Bottom line when it comes to health care the vast majority in leadership and c-suite positions have mainly science degrees (MD, PH.D, DPN, MRN, APRN, MRN) with most, but not all, having a business degree as well.
All you’ve proven is that you don’t know how healthcare organizations work or are structured.
Tripling down isn’t going to help you.
I haven’t made any assumptions. All you’ve done is make assumptions that I’ve been making assumptions.
I get that you’ve met a bunch of health care C-suite. It’s just not that impressive. Your reiterated statement doesn’t tell us anything but the fact that you don’t understand what the basics of the levels of evidence that we use in medicine are. Nor what biases are, like your own confirmation bias.
If you’re going to reiterate the same bullshit that has nothing to do with evidence based practice. I’ll just reiterate my correct statement:
Bottom line when it comes to health care the vast majority in leadership and c-suite positions have mainly science degrees (MD, PH.D, DPN, MRN, APRN, MRN) with most, but not all, having a business degree as well.
FYI, if you look up any health organization, you’ll see how many people have medical degrees. You clearly don’t work in healthcare and clearly haven’t communicated with anyone that does.
Honestly surprised I’m even carrying on this conversation with an obvious retard.
Your claim has nothing to do with evidence based practice. I never said it did. However the concept applies to a broader range than just clinical research or EBM. And if you claim to work in health care you should know something about it when working in health care and you should refrain from statements that go against this concept.
Bottom line is you haven’t provided any evidence for your claim. All you’ve done it restate a well-known logical fallacy like a broken record and pout when someone doesn’t immediately fall for it. I think:
…applies here.
I’m an MD, PhD, so actually yes, I do. You on the other hand, work for a software company that happens to provide software for health care facilities. So in fact, you do not. But all of that is irrelevant, since I don’t believe that either of us can tell this from our respective personal encounters with the C-suite.
If someone doesn’t believe your claim, you look for evidence backing that up. You don’t go telling someone they’re an idiot for not believing you. To show you how that may look, I will start:
So, now we have found an apparent expert – since neither of us are – it seems the cards are shuffling differently. He doesn’t provide any evidence either, so this brings us up to level C. If you have something better I wil gladly take a look.
And to humor you – because again, one health facility doesn’t say anything about the other thousands – I’ve looked up the executive team of the TMC and found one MD, one PhD and one MPH among a whole assortment of business majors, management and legal studies.
Maybe it’s time to drop your arrogance a bit. The fact that you can’t tell a doc from an obvious retard who obviously doesn’t work in health care isn’t doing you any favors.