In an effort to stem the bleeding from the backlash about their AI usage and their CEO’s meltdown, they decide to do the exact opposite and go all in.

…I’m tired, boss.

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    Ugh. Got another year on my prepaid plan. When I’ve tried making changes in the past they only ever offered credit for the unused time instead of a refund.

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    The real tell here is when Yen berated an engineer who voiced concerns about security, saying “stop finding ways to be slow, start finding ways to be faster”. He’s a C-suite baby who wants what he wants RIGHT NOW!

    When the suits start acting like engineers who care about best practices are being obstacles instead of valuable stewards of quality, you know you’re dealing with losers who can’t be trusted to not run things into the ground. Any walking back that Yen does now, you know he’s just biding his time to ride out the kerfuffle, and he’s just going to low-key abuse his employees at a slightly slower pace, but he’s going to get what he wants.

    Canceled my sub, moved my mail.

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      This. Although not enthused with the all in use of AI tools, I dont have a problem with it being used to generate code. So long as a human is responsible for the PRs that go into the project. The bigger issue is the push around sacrificing proper security posture and process. As I’ve said else where, for a company that sold me and many based on their security and privacy stance, its an odd position to take, and probably why I will be moving on closer to my subscription end

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    This asshole has no clue. Migrating is always a pain, but I’m glad I’m no longer vulnerable to his stupidity harming me directly.

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    Soo stupid, their business model is reliant on people that move out of a free service based on principle.

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    I genuinely wonder what these executives have in their mind.

    What do they think? That engineers are good enough for being hired but not good enough to decide which tools to use?

    If I hire a plumber and I tell them what tool to use, the plumber would either comply and do a bad job or will tell me to get lost.

    Why do they think this is different?

    Do some engineers like LLM? Sure! And let it be Do some engineers don’t like LLM? Yes… and let it be.

    If these tools are so miraculous the engineers that use them will provide such good results that will naturally prevail.

    Why the executives need to thumb the scale?

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      They’re thinking that the chatbots are just a few weeks away from making hiring people obsolete so they can finally get infinite money forever.

      So, not thinking at all.

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      What do they think? That engineers are good enough for being hired but not good enough to decide which tools to use?

      Exactly. That’s the smell that stinks from miles away.

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    Okay, so who has unlimited custom domain email aliases other than Proton? Having recently just set up a hundred or more of these suckers I’d have need of taking them with me.

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      I’ve been with Fastmail for a while and they seem decent. They also have unlimited aliases. They have a catch all alias ability too

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    I highly suggest Thundermail (tb.pro) if you wanna switch to a libre email provider. Mozilla hosts stalwart and their own libre mail client for you, along with providing 15 mail aliases and 3 custom domains, for a small price. I have been using it as my daily since past few months. I haven’t found any bugs despite it being in beta.

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    I had kept my mail account around just as an alternate for cutting down on spam to my main, but this was a good excuse to dump it. No need to enable the fash anymore.

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    The first is a change in engineering culture and engineer mentality. Your job has fundamentally changed. It is no longer to write code, and LLMs are not here to help you write better code faster. Your job is to help the LLM write better code faster.

    Emphasis theirs 🤮

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      The dumb thing about that quote is that it doesn’t have to be an either/or situation. Engineers want to solve these problems by nature; if there were no voices from the top, we’d be getting AI to help us write better code, and trying to make AI write better code fast. For whatever reason the C-suites can’t just let things follow their natural course which would already result in wins for them, they have to spew the narrative that our jobs are completely changing so they can justify getting rid of them

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    good thing proton didnt look that good in the first place and i didnt switch to them

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      and their CEO’s meltdown, they decide to do the exact opposite and go all in.

      I was INCHES away. They were going to be my de-google move. I had decided to pull the trigger but it was late and I know i would have been up all night dealing with it. I’d deal with it in the morning. A few more days slipped and he licked Trumps balls on twitter…

      Whoopsies, not with someone elses’ 10 ft pole.

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        I use them for a vpn and had been planning to switch email and all to proton but had been putting it off. Now I’m so fucking glad I did. As soon as my subscription is up I’m switching to something else

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    This is the same bullshit AI arms race mentality that my company spews to us and every loser company takes up. Every company feels like they need to get faster. None do. Shockingly everyone still releases at the same pace. And even then no value gets added as 80% of the features are either dark patterns or garbage.

    As a consumer you’ll never see the benefits of any of this madness. I certainly haven’t. It’s NFTs all over again where people insist I need a clumsy chatbot for reasons.

    As an engineer my current reality of babysitting multiple LLM threads and acting as a go between between the llm i spun up and the llm reviewing the code is demoralizing. There’s no thought in this 80% of the time. The most challenging part is finding a way to keep up tech skills and make new ones when everyone has abandoned them.

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      What’s missing in a lot of these is that the executive ‘leadership’ emphasizes some abstract need to do faster, but never concretely what it is that they need to see done faster. Even worse they go to their customer base bragging about stuff the customer shouldn’t care about one way or another if it works: we are going to vibe code the software you get! Ok, but what do I get because of your shift to vibe coding that I didn’t have before? What is it that you actually are looking for me to buy?

      They have zero vision and instead just signal affinity to AI thinking “job done” without ever actually having some concrete value based goal in mind.

      When folks executing toward no particular goal fail to reach any particular goal, the response is to get more opinionated on how to do things and how the employees are obviously not doing things ight since they haven’t hit objectives and never actually circling back to actually defining objectives.

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      Studying CS right now

      On the verge of giving up.

      Got two more semesters but it doesn’t look like I will ever have a fulfilling job

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      Every company feels like they need to get faster.

      Well yeah, they’re capitalist institutions. If they’re not growing exponentially, they’re failing.

      That’s not a snarky mockery of the attitude of leadership, that’s the logic of capital.

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        But even then you actually need a direction to grow that translates to cash inflow.

        They generally don’t actually have an end specified, and get obsessed over the means which don’t translate to money.

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        Yes and no.

        Yes every company wants to move faster. I’m not arguing that.

        What I am saying, and I didn’t articulate well, is that each company thinks that LLMs are the secret sauce to moving at speeds beyond their wildest imagination. If they can crack the code they win.

        Suffice to say none do. And everyone is moving at the same speed.

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          It’s not even guaranteed that moving faster is a good thing. The first to get somewhere will find out all the problems there, which the companies behind them will learn from, and avoid going there.

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      Buy a domain, have your email address be tied to that domain and set it so the DNS record redirects to the email provider of your choice.

      You can now swap email providers without having to change your email address.

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          For most people who are not into tech, grasping the concepts required for setup would be difficult. However, if you can mostly understand the first sentence in my comment above, it should be fairly straightforward.

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          Because it’s not super easy. DNS management isn’t a button-click process, for the most part: if you’re trying to control your data and care about privacy, there’s no super easy service out there for you. You need to find a domain registrar, buy the domain you want, and configure it yourself. The help your email provider gives you to configure it might be grammatically different from how your registrar wants it entered, so it can be an annoying process.

          It’s not rocket surgery, but it’s not just “enter name and password and IMAP server name and voila” either.