Equal weight doesn’t necessarily mean equal muscle. I would think a gorilla would still be more muscled than a bear, since the bear could just be fat from getting ready to hibernate.
Also gorillas are smart enough to use tools. It could just crack the bear over the head with a log or something.
A gorilla and a bear, equal weight, meet in the woods and you think they are going to fight? No.
They’re going to become the best of friends.
First, they’d size each other up, realize they’re equally matched. Then, they’d nod, respectfully, and decide to team up. They would be unstoppable. The gorilla, with its incredible strength, agility, and problem-solving skills, would be the brains of the operation. It’d plan their strategies, communicate with other animals, innovate and adapt human tools for their use, and keep their team organized. The bear, with its raw power, intimidating presence, and fearsome reputation, would be the muscle. It’d protect their territory, hunt for food, and strike fear into the hearts of any who dared to resist their expansion.
Together, they’d rule the forest, a formidable duo that no other animal would dare challenge. They would create a network of informants and allies, with birds acting as their eyes in the sky, and smaller mammals like squirrels and raccoons helping to gather resources and spread their influence. The gorilla would also know when to use diplomacy, forging alliances with other animal groups to strengthen their hold.
Humans, overwhelmed and outmatched, would have no choice but to retreat, leaving the cities to the new rulers of the urban jungle. The gorilla and the bear, once mere forest dwellers, would now sit atop the crumbling skyscrapers, surveying their vast kingdom, a testament to their unlikely friendship and unstoppable power. The legend of their alliance would echo through the generations, a reminder that sometimes, the most fearsome of foes can become the greatest of friends.
At some point the bear would be killed and, seeing that his own end would come, the gorilla would go into an existential crisis and would go on a long quest to find out how to avoid death. This quest would, eventually, lead the gorilla to finding an old lab from the time of the humans. In this lab there would live an old chimpanzee that has survived countless ages. When asked how he long survived, the chimpanzee would explain that the humans discovered the secret to immortality.
Alas, when asked for directions on how to achieve the same, the chimp would tell the gorilla that the process was lost to the span of time. The secret, however, could be found by making a journey to the lowest depths of a sunken part of urban jungle, wherein an old lab sits. After acquiring the gear to survive, the gorilla would dive deep into the abyss, and would make it to the lab. In the lab, the secret would be discovered and he would make his way to the surface, victorious.
Alas, as the ape ascended, he would be beset upon by a large mutant fish. A monster so terrifying that even the non-descriptions of the human writer H.P. Lovecraft wouldn’t be able to do it justice. The gorilla would fight the monster and emerge victorious, but at a cost. The secret that he had spent so long pursuing would be destroyed. Lost to time.
The gorilla would go back to the urban jungle and marvel at the world that he and the bear had built. Resigned to his inevitable death, this urban jungle would stand the test of time as a symbol to all that came after, of the might of the bear and the gorilla.
It always comes back to Gilgamesh.
the chimp would tell the bear
I thought the bear had died?
Fixed. Even a horrible writer that rips off ancient Sumerian myth needs an editor.
Humans, overwhelmed and outmatched, would have no choice but to retreat
… and then invent rifles :)
They aren’t close to equal mass tho. Brown bears can be 2,000lbs vs Silverback at less than 600lbs.
The bear wins all day.
They federated.
Bears are predators evolved to hunt large game, primarily with brute force (unlike something like a big cat, which relies much more on ambushes).
Gorrilas, as tough as they are, survive through intelligence. This means avoiding tough fights, and when absolutely needed, fighting as a troop rather than individualy.
So bear. But…
Does the Gorilla get time to prepare?
The one advantage gorillas have is their intelligence. If both animals are given training, or tools, then I could see the gorilla potentially winning - mostly because a bear will struggle to get any use out of either, whereas a gorilla could be trained to fight much more effectively and possibly even make/use weapons.
Not sure, but I was once (un?)fortunate enough to witness what happens when a bear was faced with an orangutan.
To shreds you say?
Now, I’m the king of the swingers
Oh, the jungle VIP
I’ve reached the top and had to stop
And that’s what botherin’ me
I wanna be a man, mancub
And stroll right into town
And be just like the other men
I’m tired of monkeyin’ around!Oooooh, oobidoo!
I wanna be like you-oo-oo!
I wanna walk like you!
Talk like you!
Scoo-doo-bidoo!
Bear. Gorillas can get killed by leopards. Yeah, they’re musculars and got decently sharp incisives and pointy canines, but bears hunt large animals as part of their diet, so they’re better equiped to kill. Teeth, bite force, claws, thick fur to dampen attacks…
Bears are also very fast runners, 35mph
Equally strong probably but I’d assume a bear is faster and more aggressive. Also has a set of steak knives on each paw.
I think a grizzly bear or a polar bear would take it. Any other bear it’s going to the gorilla.
Cocaine bear vs PCP gorilla
And a Meth Tiger.
In a magical hypothetical world where we could make this happen without it being absurdly cruel to the animals, I’d love to see it.
But consider a polar bear is twice as heavy as a Gorilla … OP said equal weight, so that’s one massive gorilla.
What about a Drop Bear?
He’s getting dropped.
That’s not a species of animal. That’s the living embodiment of a fundamental force of nature. No mortal, man nor beast, can defeat one.
What about the masturbating bear?
A bear would easily kill a gorilla even if they’re the same weight, in a chance encounter.
Did no one post the tier zoo video yet?
I strongly believe a Bear would easily win. It has stronger Attack and Defence.
It has massive claws and will shred open a gorilla’s unprotected skin with it’s claws and teeth.
A gorilla has very little in terms of defence and that will be its downfall, it also only really has its teeth to attack with, and a Bear has thick skin to protect against that.
I don’t see how a Gorilla could deal a fatal blow to a bear before the bear would rip deep wounds into a Gorilla with it’s claws and teeth causing it to bleed out.
In absolutely no scenario does the gorilla not just obliterate the koala bear. I don’t understand how you think they might even be a little matched in strength?
Bears are also surpsingly muscular and have very thick hides
I could see a gorilla choking a bear out though, the bear isn’t going to be able to strangle the gorilla from behind.
Do… gorillas choke out anything in the wild? I feel like training either animal in Krav Maga or Ninjutsu puts your thumb on the scale.
I don’t know, but they’re physically capable of it. I once had an anthropology professor who demonstrated the difference between simian-like arms and quadruped-like arms, and the major part of it was noting that you’ve never seen a cat spread their arms out like the Vetrivian Man (they can’t). In the evaluation of ape vs. bear combat I don’t want to discount the capability of the ape to grasp, latch on or choke.
I don’t think primates choke at all in the wild, and I don’t think it’ll be the most effective method either.
When your opponent has claws and long teeth waiting for them to pass out while they dig their claws into you might not be the best strategy
We are primates, and when we put all the martial arts together (MMA) it turns into a match of who can get on top of and neutralize their opponent. A bear doesn’t have any way of attacking a primate if the primate can get to its back. As a human, we wouldn’t have the dexterity or strength to get around, cling onto a bear and choke it out, but a bear-sized gorilla probably could and once it does that it’s neutralized every mode of attack the bear has except writhing around and pushing it into other objects.
Can you even choke out a bear? I mean I know technically it’s possible but I would imagine their neck is a little more protected then ours.
If MMA fighters had big jaws with teeth, and long sharp claws I don’t think wrestling would remain the best tactic.
Your opponent isn’t just going to turn their back on you, and if you try and grab them they can bite and hold on to you, and start clawing open deep wounds.
Bear primarily because of the claws. It means it can deliver a deadly slashing attack without getting its mouth, head and neck (its most vulnerable spots) within the gorilla’s grasp.
Not to mention a bear’s hide is very tough compared to a gorilla.
Bear, no contest
Only one way to find out…
I’ve never seen a video of a gorilla fighting, but I’ve seen a bear fight. So bear for me.
At equal weight, the Gorilla is the better fighter.
