Come here and 30 min are the same thing. I guess context answers that one.
The minutes are clearly to be appended to a meeting command, is how I read it. “Come here” alone makes sense. “30 minutes” alone doesn’t.
How ho you do that last long knock??
Yeah like maybe the one prior is just half cut off, so it’s a a medium knock?
What exactly does a “long” knock sound like?
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. At first I thought it didn’t really matter, you’d just go by the length of time between knocks. But then I saw the “be quiet”, which would be indistinguishable from “cone here”…
wouldn’t be quiet b: Tak, tak, tak.
and come here be: Tak, tak. Tak.My assumption is that dots have no pause after nock, while dash requires pause. Just like when someone uses Morse code underwater
E.g.:
U-571 Morse cose sceneThis only works if the sequences are guaranteed to never end with a long knock. If you meant to say the pause goes before the long knock, like in the example you gave, not after it, then it only works if the sequence is guaranteed to never begin with a long knock.
Putting the pause before the long knock instead of after is so counter-intuitive that my brain struggles to allow me to actually tap the sequences that way while I read them, for example your “Tak, tak. Tak.” intuitively sounds like dot dash dot (super sister meeting), and not dot dot dash (come here).
I think the scene in that movie is a Hollywood inaccuracy. Tapping/knocking has its own system for communication: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tap_code
Interesting, I never heard about that system.
During my reply to another comment I stumbled upon another issue with how I thought pauses could work, so maybe instead of pause they distinguished dashes from dots by designating different knocking surfaces (e.g. wall for dash and wood(like bedframe or doorframe) for them?The goal would be to produce different sounds so e.g. dot = tak and dash = tuk. That way only pauses would be for switching the surface and for intermission between phrases
dots have no pause after nock, while dash requires pause
That’s exactly what I thought. But when the only dash is at the end of the message, how do you tell?
..-andare going to be indistinguishable, no?So, for dash they could have put pauses on both sides, maybe?
Few examples:
a) -·· => Tak. Tak, tak.
b) ··- => Tak,tak. Tak.Then only option that wouldn’t work is -·-.
Other option, that would allow all combinations, is if they devised solution where dash and dot knocks used different surfaces to produce different sound. E.g. for dash on a wall and for dot on wod (like a bed frame).
For a danish, your onomatopoeia choice for a knock would sound annoyingly polite.
ooh,
so somethig like: Please, please. Pleeease.That does sound like younger sibling😁
hahah its rather: Thanks, thanks thaaanks. But your version is equally annoyingly polite. 😁
If you do a long knock, you can kinda hear the delayed release from the wall if you listen closely.
Maybe a knuckle drag?
Was my thinking too, if they’re sharing a wall it would be pretty quiet but easily heard by the other
Or maybe different sounds altogether. Like in enunciated morse code “dit dit dit” / “dit dit daa”.
The dit could be done by tapping with a nail, daa with a finger, or something like that.
I’m not certain but I’m assuming a short knock they remove their hand quickly after impact and a long hand they keep their hand pressed against the wall after impact. Or maybe the difference between knuckles and palm knocks?
like the engine of my car at idle
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They have 13 phrases. Could have kept to combination of 3 digits of dots and dashes and still have one slot left over.
- .
- -
- …
- .-
- -.
- --
- …
- …-
- .-.
- .–
- -…
- -.-
- --.
- -–
If it isn’t obvious, I don’t have daughters.
Obviously we need to teach them Huffman encoding
Last knock kant be detected to be long or short (right?) so you have to redo it.
The girls’ codes do rely on that though
Yes it’s broken too 😁
You can just add a short knock to the end of every sequence, that should remove any ambiguity
How do you know it’s a short knock at the end and not just a super long knock
But is that the most efficient 🧐? (Probably)
They could also just use Knock Code which is a simple way to encode letters as knocks to send arbitrary messages. Most often used by prisoners since it’s easy to learn.
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3 and 7 are the same sequence. 8 and 11 are a sequence of 4
EDIT: I looked closer and realized these could be explained by simple typos; 3 would be
.., 7 is not a typo, 8 would be..-, and 11 would be-..Removed by mod
I would have changed the long and short to knuckle and palm strikes.
Wow are you really flexing on a kid
Haha I’m jk, that’s a really good edit
“come here” is the same as “30 min”?
Most languages have homophones where the meaning depends heavily on context. You wouldn’t start a conversation with “30 minutes” and you likely wouldn’t respond to “come here” with “come here” when “my room” is an option.
The more difficult one is probably “come here” vs “be quiet”. Unless there’s some way to tell the length of the last knock those two sound the same, and they’re both plausible responses to a “meet me” knock. “My room” and “tomorrow” have a similar issue, again being “we can meet, but you come to me” and “I don’t want to meet” responses distinguished only by the length of the final knock
But to be fair they’re 11/9 year old kids, hell yeah for making a secret pseudo-Morse-code
As sweet as this is, there’s a part of me that’d like to see the ensuing chaos if someone added code for “I hate you” as
--.In my experience that is just slamming the wall
I’d love to read the minutes from a “Super Sister Meeting”
How do you do a short vs long knock? I figured maybe they were talking about the pauses before the knock but then how would you know if something began with a pause or not?
Yeah for like “meet me out front”, there’s no real way to do that short knock
I had one of these with one of my sisters. I don’t remember what any of the codes were.
Is a long knock just a knock and a pause or some kind of rimshot/paradiddle?
Best I can do is two shaves and a haircut.
Shave and a haircut, two bits
Haha. That makes way more sense. Thanks for the correction.
We did this with my brother
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They share a wall, not a door
