“Well, they did sign up for it, actually. And this is what I campaigned on,” Trump said of the tariffs during an interview with ABC News that aired Tuesday.

And you can’t really argue with that.

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    46% of Americans still support all of this. We’re a doomed nation full of Nazis. I feel like it’s going to get genocide/Great Depression bad.

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    Someone smarter than me once said:

    The dildo of consequence rarely arrives lubed…

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    voters threw away their future so they could “help” the poor people in Gaza from getting bombed by “the evil democrats”. I SWORE UP AND DOWN voluntarily making things worse for us because it might help some poor people on the other side of the world was the wrong move and I was vilified for this opinion by everyone in existence.

    Now Gaza is still getting bombed and they are additionally committing war crimes against American people instead of just Gazans. Fuck me. Even feral animals have the ability to watch out for themselves better than this season’s swing voters did.

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      I’m convinced those people spamming that shit were bots / Russians / shills. Because as soon as the Democrats lost, they were gone.

      The problem is that the damage was done. For all of the intellectual superiority we like to profess, plenty on the left are dumb as bricks and easily swayed by propaganda and bullshit.

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        That being said, I’m not sure they’re wrong. World opinion is turning against the US and by extension what the administration stands for right now.

        I won’t be surprised if the next elections mark a real turning point in support for Palestinians.

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    Only place he should be backed is to a stone wall with a blindfold and 9 deputies lined up drawing a bead on him

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    You signed up for all of it and everyone that was opposite of you told you it’s fucking predictable it was going to happen. Even yelled out project 2025, it was right there in your face. But you don’t read a damn thing, of course you weren’t going to read that book like you don’t read the Bible. Stop. Falling. For. Obvious. Bullshit.

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      Tbf, some of the things he said or what’s on Project 2025 is there… people just voted for him cause he said, “I’ll make your price of eggs go lower.”

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        I heard some variant of, “He lies all the time, so I don’t think he’s serious about tariffs/Project 2025.”

        Which is interesting to square with the thought of, “He tells it like it is, so I trust him.”

        But I don’t live with chronic cognitive dissonance, which I assume these people accept as just another uncomfortable feeling humans have to live with. Like aches that persist with age, or feeling exhaustion at the thought of getting out of bed and going to work. That flicker of doubt from seeing that your beliefs contradict each other is just another sensation that needs to be suppressed and ignored.

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        Do we really think people voted Trump based on eggs? I think we need to read between the lines here.

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          This is literally irrelevant. That was the height of the bird flu. It wasn’t Bidens fault and if Biden had been reelected it would have sorted itself out, most likely faster because Biden would have actually made decisions based on fact and science.

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    Yes. Unfortunately we all have to suffer because a quarter of the US population is as ignorant as a box of rocks.

    That being said, he also has the option of not destroying the US economy. Nobody is forcing him to recklessly abolish society.

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      Hold up. Wait. So tRUMP isn’t lying for once?

      His lips moved therefore a childlike fabrication should be heard, right!!??!! I think I need to have a good long sit down and think about what he’s done!

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      Exactly, this is not the policies of just one (although completely mental) guy. This is republican politics.

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    He also said tariffs were a tax that other countries paid…so there may have been some confusion over what exactly they were agreeing to.

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      It doesn’t matter who pays the tariff. Anyone with half a brain knows that the cost will be passed down to the consumer either way.

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          Yep. Less than half a brain and less than half a heart. Amd absolutely no self-awareness.

          Socrates would chug a 20 ounce hemlock Mountain Dew just on principle after meeting an average American.

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        If you’re not informed and take Trump at his word, I can see how you might end up thinking the tariffs were a country-to-country transaction, like literally China paying the USA.

        In that case you wouldn’t necessarily arrive at the conclusion that the cost has to be passed on, along the value chain.

        But on the other hand I don’t have a good track record of estimating what uninformed people who don’t care to seek information think…

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          As a non-American it’s difficult to grasp how uninformed the average American voter is. It’s not that difficult to look up what tariffs really are.

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            It’s actually very difficult for them to look up what tariffs are, because they read below a 4th grade level and are functionally illiterate. Most explanations regarding tariffs that I have read seem to assume a European high school level of reading proficiency.

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            Pretty simple, they didn’t give it a second thought because there was never a first thought

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      He said the economy would go up on day one, prices would go down and America would be in a golden age.

      He said the economy was doing great in 2024 because people were predicting He would win the election, and then when the economy went down in 2025 he put all the blame on Biden.

      I said this in 2016: he doesnt mean anything he says, he just says whatever he thinks in that moment will get him what he wants. He lies so frequently that you might as well just disregard everything he says because it doesnt have any basis in reality.

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      Idk why so many idiots keep harping on this when it doesn’t matter who actually gives the money to the government, it all ends up being borne by the end consumer. If china “paid” the tariffs to the government it would be exactly the same as if the importer did in terms of overall effect.

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    Ok this is the third thing he says i agree with in these 100 days.

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          I agree with him that physical men must not be allowed to compete in women sports against other physical womans. Its completely unfair to woman who have no chance to reach the physical level a man can reach in strength-based sports. And it kills all motivation for a woman to be an athlete when they cant reach that level.

          That doesn’t happen. Men play in men’s sports and women play in women’s sports. If you mean trans people, trans athletes follow some pretty strict guidelines to play in most leagues that don’t give them an unfair advantage (though, to be fair, there may be some physical differences between trans and cis athletes that might affect performance, but studies have shown that these differences do not make for more than a very slight advantage at best (and potentially a large disadvantage at worst!), and I’d argue that most cis athletes would be way better off just doing steroids than spending literal years transitioning to get this fabled advantage that doesn’t exist.)

          But trans women do play in women’s sports and trans men do play in men’s sports. Your argument is that trans women should play in men’s sports, yes? Should trans men play in women’s sports? If you don’t believe they should, then you don’t believe they are women (which is valid, because they are, you know, men). But what is different about trans women? It is entirely feelings based, because the evidence doesn’t show that trans athletes crush their competition. It doesn’t even show that they win more often. Because they don’t! They win just as often as you would expect a cis athlete does.

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            I agree with most of your post. And also, I want to be clear that I support trans people participating in sports.

            The problem with studies is that there is literally no data. This is such a statistically insignificant problem there isn’t enough data to go on. There were like 20 trans athletes in total for one of the larger studies.

            The data we do have shows mixed results. Trans women tend to perform better in sports that require physical strength, such as weightlifting.

            They do not perform better than cis women in cardio events such as running and swimming. Their smaller muscle mass can’t keep up with the larger frame.

            Regardless, I think the value that comes from participating in sports is too important to not let them play.

            A lot of the bans of trans kids in sports seem to be happening at the age where sports are co-ed so the whole thing is fucking stupid. Just let people play sports.

            EDIT: Me: “I’m trying to say I support the trans community and want them in sports.”

            Everyone else: “why do you hate trans people?”

            Like are we so angry at the world that we instinctively yell at people agreeing with us?

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              Sure. We don’t necessarily have concrete evidence one way or the other on advantages due to numbers, but of the trans athletes that currently exist, the dis/advantage is unlikely to matter beyond a couple percentage points. With more trans athletes, we can get more determination into what effects transitioning has on athletic ability, but for the most part, it’s not a real issue.

              The issue is that the average person thinks there are cismasc athletes registering as transfem, which isn’t a thing.

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                Yeah that’s the point I was trying to make but it’s clear to me now, I was sounding anti-trans women in sports.

                I was saying there are contexts when cis women perform better than trans women and vice versa. Depends on so many things like the sport and the people involved that you can’t just outright ban trans people from sports.

                Also, there are so few trans people in sports that they aren’t able to get quality studies done. If there are that few people, why are conservatives spending time trying to harm the trans community? Just leave them alone. They are humans too.

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              So basically you’re saying we should allow trans people to play in whatever sport they want so we can collect more data.

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                No, I’m saying we should just allow them to play sports because they’re human just like us.

                I’m just saying there is basically no data and there are certain sports where cis women have an advantage of trans women, just as there are sports where it’s the opposite.

                I think it’s important to make decisions with factual data and be honest up front. If I tell someone studies show I’m right and then you later find out that I was only talking about one random study with 1 woman, they’re less likely to believe me, if if what I said was valid.

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              So because you don’t like the studies we should take the most hurtful option? Fuck off with your dog whistles and double speak.

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                No that’s not what I meant. To be clear, I support trans women playing sports with cisgender women.

                I want to be accurate and honest when speaking about it or our side is just as slimy and shady as the other side’s argument.

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                  I support trans women playing sports with cisgender women

                  So you think the most fair option is for this person to be playing in women’s sports:

                  An athletic trans man

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          Damn you Lia Thompson! Damn you for DOMINATING in the women’s NCAA swimming and diving championships and checks notes …unremarkably tying for 5th place.

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              That’s trying to make this seem like a small issue, when it’s not. It’s not about sports. The right has been using “men in women’s sports” as an excuse to try to hurt people.

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                No im sure its a big issue. I just have an opinion about it that people may not share, and I think thats fine.

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                  You’re making excuses. Saying “ohh it’s just a different opinion” is a way to dismiss actual criticism of your opinion and preemptively try to make anyone who gets mad at you look like they are overreacting.

                  Your opinion is shitty and didn’t hold up, and it’s a cruel opinion to have.

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                  Since nobody has come out with it yet, I will: you are a bigot. Your views are bigoted. You think it is acceptable to dehumanize and discriminate against an already vulnerable minority because a sports competition might be different. You have decided that somebody doesn’t have a right to exist because there might be a tiny change to your favorite hobby. Are you truly this unempathetic?

                  Would you like to know that the whole ‘they’re too strong’ excuse was the exact same thing they said about black men in sports? It is exactly the same playbook, and you are falling for it like a sucker.

                  Grow up and fix yourself.