- cross-posted to:
- justpost@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- justpost@lemmy.world
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29035971
Posting here for preservationās sake
Image in removed comment was the attached Palpatine image. Curious to see if the same admin mod would remove these screenshots if I crosspost them to !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com , which they also admin and mod. Would I get a fair trial there or will my dissenting and othersā be silenced?
You canāt say youāre against disinfo if youāre knowing and intentionally promulgating it and abetting its usage. They also didnāt even remove the Reddit watermark.
This is why I donāt assign identities unto myself, because you criticize one action done wrong by leaders of an ideology or movement and bam! youāre shut out of it completely. Theyāve lost the aid of an ally and progress is impeded by being shorted a participant trying to correct the course.
@Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com is literally an admin, they have access to voter and user metric data that you donāt. Who are you to claim there isnāt brigading or a movement going on? Thatās right you donāt and canāt actually know better than they do. If I didnāt know better I might think you were trying to deny this issue due to your part in it.
@DrAwkwArD@lemmy.world You have no post or comment history whatsoever for two years, yet here you are in this thread downvoting comments. Susā¦
@Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com This is what I mean when I say there is brigading here, people are using bots or their own alt accounts to vote on accounts
Yeah, thanks for the heads up. Iāve proposed in !div0_governance@lemmy.dbzer0.com to update the instance rules to disallow anti-genAI trolling in communities where genAI is allowed. They can take their pro-copyright-rentseeking campaign elsewhere. Donāt know why they thought it would fly here.
Iāve got no real problem with folks taking that position tbh, but itās not ok to dogpile posts on our communities like has happened here. Iām also somewhat sympathetic to the argument that GenAI is having an impact on artistsā livelihoods. But they havenāt connected the dots that this is only an issue because of greedy corporations trying to fuck over artists. They are directing all their anger towards GenAI instead of the real source of the problem. By all means advocate for greedy corporations to stop using AI to increase their profits at the expense of artists. But to come into a leftist space and demand that we stop using AI too is at best tokenistic, and at worst just serves to obfuscate the fundamental problem.
The users engaged in trolling here and tying to excuse it as āactivismā should think harder about who they are fighting with and why. Even if we did capitulate and ban genAI, that would have zero impact on artists, because we donāt pay for artists in the first place. Itās nothing but virtue signalling and tokenism. The Luddites didnāt go around breaking into peoples houses and smashing their spinning wheels. They went to factories owned by rich men and companies to destroy machinery in order to disrupt production and fight for workers rights and safety. Good on them too! If the anti genAI brigade were fighting against Gettyās (or Adobe, etc.) use of AI that might actually have a useful leftist purpose, and the analogy with the Luddites would work. Instead they are here causing a nuisance in a leftist community, over some random crossposted GenAI meme. Good work guys - job done I guess, the capitalists must be quaking in their boots right now because of your āactivismā.
I think @shaiatan@midwest.social is probably another one, does have history, but 2 months inactive. Maybe Iām being too aggressive but this Anti-AI brigade is out of control.
Iām not sure about that one but feel free to community ban them if they have been downvoting a lot. I instanced banned the (almost) empty account you mentioned. Fuck those guys. I hope you can feel free to reach out to me or one of the other admins if you get cyberbullied and you need someone to disclose to.
Yeah I agree, the Anti AI movement (and it is a movement) is extremely reactionary and doesnāt accomplish anything. Certainly isnāt helping artists. And yeah theyāre not even comparable to luddites who went after factories back in the day. Anti-AI trolls are going after individual people, often harassing people, also deciding to use any arguments even ones proven to be lies or faulty. Theyāre inadvertently helping big corporations by making themselves and their movement look like quacks or trolls.
Did you post it yet? I didnāt see it there.
Blatantly ignoring disengage while also making absolutely unfounded and ridiculous claims. Absolutely shameful.
You think admins are infallible? Youāre only attacking me with these claims because Iām calling out someone who happens to be an admin. They are still human and, clearly, capable of doing wrong.
The whole point of this conversation is that it is wrong to assume everyone who simply shows a dislike in AI is a āright-wing pro-capitalist liberalā. That is a judgement of a personās ideals and values based on a single metric that has no inherent connection to right-wing liberalism.
Now you have convinced me to block this entire instance because of this abhorrent behavior.
You are attempting to abuse the disengage rule. If you want to disengage, youāre not supposed to also try to put the last word in. Just disengage without arguing further.
Donāt let the door hit you on the way out, troll.
itās another user entirely. they didnāt ignore disengage, they are commenting on it
Right. I misunderstood thinking that it meant that all people must respect the personās desire to be left out of it. It would probably be a better rule if that were the case. But, apparently rules donāt really matter here anyways.
I also missed an important part of it:
It still doesnāt excuse the disgusting behavior.
I simply wanted to be done, because there is zero respect shown here.
Iām also now frustrated that the instance block appears to not be working, since I got a notification for this reply.
I donāt want to deal with any interactions with anything or anyone related to db0 after this appalling lack of any respect, utterly shameful accusations, and weird cult-like attitude towards an admin.
Since you obviously have no intention of actually disengaging, thereās no problem with me pointing out that the disgusting behavior here is you intruding upon our instance to push your own shitty agenda, while insisting we abide by your dumbass rules about civility so we donāt hurt your fweelings. This is the problem with you self-righteous .world liberal hacks, you think the entire fediverse is your own little kingdom to do whatever you wish in, but canāt handle your cult-like world views being challenged.
Absolutely disgusting, and since you wonāt be seeing our communities anymore, I say good riddance, and absolutely nothing of any value whatsoever was lost by not having you around.
an instance block will stop db0 content from showing in your feedā¦ comments will still populate and users can still comment back to you.