• Daggity@lemmy.zip
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    9 months ago

    I’ve been using Germany based mailbox and I’ve been pretty happy with it.

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      9 months ago

      +1 for mailbox (mailbox.org). I’ve have a business and personal account with them since I degoogled during the pandemic. Nothing but good things to say about them. 👍

  • baines@lemmy.cafe
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    9 months ago

    the first one had some controversy with the creator

    my preference is the second

    what exactly is the third?

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      It was blown out of proportion and misinterpreted in places yeah, but it’s reddit… it wasn’t a good look at all though and he shouldn’t have said it. The real problem I have with Proton is all this time investment in useless features, like AI. Instead of focusing on a few products.

      Tuta I am in the process of trying, it’s got a slow and dated interface vs Proton, but still functional. It’s slightly cheaper vs Proton too. I’m still debating if I go Proton or Tuta + Mullvad.

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        i remember when it happened

        didn’t he double down with justifications instead of flat out separating himself from the claim?

        this pretty much matches my memory

        https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/1id5v21/does_proton_really_support_trump_a_deeper/mbfaw4e/

        it was more Libertarian delusion than directly Trump supporting but it was pretty concerning regardless

        i wonder how many readers came in after shit got white washed

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          He doubled down and then proton left mastodon and exclusively posts on Reddit and Twitter now.

          Fuck that pathetic behaviour

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          9 months ago

          Not to mention the shutdown of the mastodon account, lack of Linux drive and the allegations of vibe-coding.

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            9 months ago

            vibe coding non-ironically is just so confusing

            anyone that has done any debugging knows there is no way this works

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        It has been eight months, but what did you decided to go with? I am currently on the same page with you where I am making a decision whether I should go with Proton (Pass Plus) or Tuta + Mullvad.

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          Maybe to the dismay of people in this thread, I went with Proton. It just feels more robust than Tuta and I liked the inclusion of Simple Login for throwaway email addresses.

          I only use their email, calendar and VPN services, so I cant comment on the rest, but I’m happy with my subscription.

      • stardust@lemmy.cadeleted by creator
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        That article is such bullshit. That anonymously submitted medium article that gets floated around ignores Internet Association, so wouldn’t be shocking if it was from proton attempting to do PR damage fixating on identity politics with intentional omission of Internet Association involvement.

        Yen conveniently ignored that after working at the FTC, Slater become the vice-president for legal and regulatory policy for the Internet Association lobby group. Which was founded by “small business” like Google, Amazon, eBay and Facebook.

        And involved in trying to infringe upon privacy rights. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/09/lawmakers-must-not-let-internet-association-weaken-california-consumer-privacy-act

        So yeah, proton founder cherry picked information that tried to make it seem like it was acceptable to praise the pick when reality is the past is too murky to endorse in any manner.

        Now seeing straight up bribing and gifts from corporations not even hiding it the whole thing aged like milk.