• KnitWit@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I don’t think they were censored, but I also don’t think ‘they just didn’t get it done in time,’ or at least more than just that.

    I’d imagine it’s more that because of what happened, it just made the episode not work for whatever reason so they needed to redo some or all of it, which lead to the delay.

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      You don’t think that it is strange that nearly after 30 years of making episodes suddenly they can’t make it on time?

      I think Paramount imposed 2 weeks so they can review, so they likely work close to the deadline to defy that, but Paramount requested a change so this imposed another delay.

      Anyway if you look at episodes 1-4 each of them are more and more tame, the attention is taken away from trump. In the first one they were ridiculing trump in 4 he is a “fucking Satan”. Much different message. In first episode they had PSA that was done implying they will have something like that every episode (i.e. #1 of 50 - they signed a 5 year deal (5 seasons) of 10 episodes each) and it never came up again.

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        South Park has a pretty long history of having trouble getting their episodes out on time.

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          I watched them since early 2000 and don’t remember much delays, while this season was every other week.

          They even had episodes ready day after election several times, last one was 2016 where they said they were totally surprised by the result.

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        You don’t think that it is strange that nearly after 30 years of making episodes suddenly they can’t make it on time?

        I don’t think it’s strange at all. They’re 30 years older than they were 30 years ago. “Six Days to Air” was 14 years ago, and they were pulling all nighters. They have families and lots of other projects, so it’s pretty reasonable to not want to live and work like that anymore.

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          They signed for 5 years and those delays were introduced in this one.

          It’s also not like it is just them two only creating those episodes, majority of the work is done by other people and they got plenty of money to hire whomever they need to.

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            majority of the work is done by other people

            No, the writing and direction is primarily done by Trey Parker. After his “written by” credits for 325 episodes, and Matt Stone’s “written by” credits for 28 episodes, the next up are David R. Goodman for 9 episodes and Nancy Pimental for 7 episodes.

            For directing, Trey Parker has credit for 311 episodes, with Eric Stough directing 15 (all before 2002) and Matt Stone directing 9.

            The creative process most certainly uses a team effort, but there are two voices doing almost all of the story structure, and that’s a natural bottleneck in the process. If you’ve seen 6 Days to Air, you can see that Trey Parker and Matt Stone are very much involved.

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        Like I said, I do think it’s related to that, I just don’t think it was censorship. Probably made something in the episode untenable and so Matt and Trey decided to change it themselves.

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          Something untenable… Like having most of the episode be jokes about a guy who just got an emergency tracheotomy performed from 300 metres away

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            Very likely yes, which would have de-railed any message they are trying to push with the show. Them self-censoring is more than likely a good thing, if that’s actually what happened and I would be inclined to believe it. By delaying they can probably come up with far more relative critiques of what has happened afterwards.

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              Exactly, and it’s really easy to imagine them waiting for shifting public opinions to see how long the kirk dick sucking would last

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    We just didn’t get it done. When you always cut it close, sometimes you mess up. That’s the price of being a procrastinator.

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      “sometimes” aka, literally only 1 time that happens to coincide with mass censorship surrounding a dude they’ve shit on recently.

      Yeah fucking right…

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        No one pulled the episode, no one censored us, and you know we’d say so if true.

        Another quote.

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              Because they are angry at the current US administration and are looking for reasons to justify that anger. Maintaining the rage at all times is a big part of online life now.

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              I’m just not gonna take their word for it. They position themselves as this epitome of comedic freedom. They’re obviously not gonna admit that they bowed down to corporate censorship…

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                That’s a very conspiratorial mindset. You’re going to believe a lot of crazy stuff if you view the world like that.

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                  It’s not conspiratorial to recognize someone’s vested interest. I know internet people love sucking these guys’ nuts, but they’re just rich dudes looking out for themselves at the end of the day. Not gonna just blindly take their word for it. If that’s a conspiracy to you, you seriously need to grow up.

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        They literally said they didn’t get it done in time. What do you want? A play by play of the production timeline and the entire studio’s personal schedule?

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          They literally said they didn’t get it done in time

          I can read, thank you. That is not an explanation. We already knew that.

          What do you want?

          An explanation?

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          No but the author could not write an article about absolutely nothing.

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      meh, it would be a mess to talk about episodes if you have to precise the commit number to be sure you saw the same version

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    3 months ago

    Its cool. They can take all the time they need. The last two weeks have been… Chaos, and thats putting it mildly.

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    I haven’t seen a photo with them in at least 15 years, they look at lot older than what I remember them (which is fair, just pointing out how tike flies).