So we’ve only got 400 mothers to prepare for the Butlerian Jihad?
I mean, people kinda are aware of it? We all know our grandparents are old, and that’s just two generations— knowing your great grandparents is considered a rare honor because of how old they must be, and that’s just three. So a long time spanning relatively few people isn’t really a shocking revelation, is it?
Years ago I had a hospice patient that was 108 years old. Her main caregivers were her children who were in their 80’s, with support of their children who were in their 50’s. And yes, they had children who were also starting to have children. Family get togethers had to be something!
because of how old they must be
Usually it’s because of how young the mothers were.
I can tell my kids about their great-great grandparents.
Your ancestor tree also expands exponentially (almost doubling with every generation), so everyone alive around the year 1250 AD is either one of your ancestors or no-one-around-today’s ancestor (because their line died out).
We are all related about 30 mothers out.
Does that take into account the relative lack of mixing among populations in different continents until recently?
Yea, a pure Native American doesn’t share a mother with a pure Australian Aborigene in 1250 AD lol.
Yeah. I had thought about that, although I realized that it’s probably a little more complex due to genetic isolation; that is, you’ve got inbreeding several generations back, even more so if your ancestors were really quite homogeneous like the Japanese. Like, instead of it being 30 mothers out, it might only be 15 or less within your region.
And a pure Native American must have a common mother with a pure Australian Aborigene about 1600 mothers ago.
Interesting, but downvoted because of self censorship of the word shit.
I somehow think that even 100 years ago mothers would start having kids sooner than 25
Even assuming 20 as the average age, that makes it only 50 women per thousand years (100 ish since 1 A.D.).
And I do think 25 is a solid guess. While you could def have kids younger, you can also have them older. 25 does feel old for average age, but also, 20 feels too young for an average.
Its probs somewhere between those two, but for math, me likey round number.
People were considered adults at an earlier age prior to the industrial revolution, but surprisingly this article implies 25 is a fairly close guess. https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/average-age-of-conception-throughout-human-history/151423/
So I was curious and checked what the average age for marriage was in ancient Greece, think 400 BCE. And… 25 is old maid range. As soon as puberty kicked in they were married, as young as 14 - 16. At least if you trust Wikipedia. And since this isn’t scholarly work, I mostly trust it.
Also helps that mitochondrial DNA from the matrilineal side is so reliable to track. It’s not just that agriculture was about 450 mothers ago - we can literally track who’s mothers they were, in order.
“you’re the result of countless ejaculations”
Product of, and producer of.
there is no 0 ad
1 word: Adblockers
There definitely was a 0 ad, but whether that standa for anything real is another issue.
Is there 0 bc then?
also no, 1bc then 1 ad
Crazy how generations be like they are
