• Zink@programming.dev
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          Americans born in the 40s and 50s had such a gilded path set out before them by WW2, and now they think that young people can’t afford homes because of starbucks and avocado toast.

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          The British did ok after the second Boer War.

          The empire of Japan did fairly well after the Russo-Japanese War in 1905.

          The empire of Japan also did great after WW1 come to think of it.

          The states did enjoy the Spanish–American war result.

          Really kinda requires a strange mind or a willfully ignorant one to not recognize that wars often have winners and that is a reason they keep happening.

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          Ww2 turned the US into the world’s premier power. In 1945 half the world’s GDP was in the United States and the US Navy was larger than the rest of the wold’s navies combined.

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            Sometimes america does something right. Normally someone else is doing something way worse though. Holocaust stopping is good points in my book.

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                It was a power grab. The US intervened softly to stop the growth of the third Reich into a hegemon, funding Britain, France, and the Soviet Union.

                When Japan hit Pearl harbor Roosevelt was forced to war and honestly he and his team were probably itching to get in there are flex American power to shape events directly. Truman finished things out trying to box in the soviets once it was clear the allies were gonna win.

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          China has geographical problems that hamstring it against American Empire.

          Until/unless they build a blue water navy that can blockade America or an alliance system that can shut us out of the indo-pacific, they are fucked in a straight up conflict.

        • T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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          Its been pretty shitty under the US, I dont want to live under china’s leadership either

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            I’m not advocating it. They just seem removed enough from the hot conflicts at the moment to weather the coming moment. If the discussion about this being a plunder move targeting China’s oil supply plans out and/or they move on Taiwan, I guess that could change.

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      People who will win: defense contractors, evangelical christians with investments in Israel, oil companies that can pull the “make money” lever at whim, saudi princes and everyone who is going to shore up around the capitalist might of US/Israel’s war machine.

      People who will lose: anyone who needs insulin, food or childcare.

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      We already lost. Trump got bullied/suckered by Israel into this mess without a clearly defined American win scenario. Israel has one and they are getting it. The US does not, because Trump is weak and catastrophically dumb, ignorant, narcissistic, and incompetent.

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        Some are saying that this is a brilliant tactic by Trump. They took Venezuela, where China gets much of their oil, and now we’ve blocked Hormuz, where China gets the rest of its oil. They think this will crush China.

        But China still has about a 100 day reserve. When that runs out, they will do something to get leverage for more oil - like take Taiwan. They need the oil, we need the chips. We’ve always worried about them taking Taiwan, and now Trump is going to force their hand with his “brilliant” chess playing.

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            Back when MAGA 2.0.was starting, and the Wrestling Bitch (I’m being nice) took over as Secty of Destruction of Education, and she did an interview where she kept saying that the standards at the Dept of Ed were going to be A-1, and eventually it was clear that she had read something about AI being used, but since she had never heard of AI, because she’s stupid, she thought it meant A-1, and proceeded to demonstrate just how stupid she really is.

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        We… we lost two THAAD radar arrays, already.

        https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/irgc-destroys-second-us-thaad-system-uae-radar-qatar-early-warning-iran-missile-dominance/

        We… can’t intercept too many missiles without those.

        They’re like $1.5 billion USD each, roughly adjusted for inflation.

        And… I think there were only like, 12 of these things, total. Anywhere. As of a week ago.

        We reportedly have been trying to take away the one we use in South Korea, to redeploy it.

        This is … beyond completely tits up.

        Trump is saying the US Navy will just escort any willing vessel through the Strait of Hormuz.

        And… what, we’re gonna use all our fleet defensive systems, to … shoot down the missiles that Iran can build 10x faster than we can build interceptors?

        Taiwan is now completely fucked, if anyone hasn’t figured that out yet, we will now almost certainly not have enough missiles to repel an invasion from the PLAN and PLAAF.

        This is… extremely bad situation, if you are generally a fan of yourself and other people not dieing a violent death.

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          They’re not only squandering their position as a global leader and the good will of our allies, but the military might and defensive capabilities too.

          They’re literally going to make the continental US vulnerable to attack by wasting so many resources in this pointless war of aggression.

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          They’re moving at least one from S Korea to replace one of the destroyed ones. Hopefully it gets blown up too.

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            When the world police run out of resources, they’re unable to police the world anymore and others who have smartly withheld resources will move in on coveted targets.

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              its also giving china big looks at the US’s current weaknesses with their huge toys that cant account for millions of flying toy planes with grenades self guiding themselves into them. US was built on big power projection but it is expensive as shit and the rapist pissed off of their allies. China could do a lot of damage, whether that is enough to take taiwan 🤷‍♂️ but it would be expensive as hell and be a lot more things for new coral reefs to build from

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                Shock and awe is the terminology on how the USA military works. Dazzle them with military might in hopes they surrender early because long term we may not have the troops for it. Though I wouldn’t be surprised to see conscription in the USA from the concentration camps.

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        Epstein was the ultimate life insurance policy for Israel. Most of the americal leaders are in their pocket because of the kompromat he collected for decades for the foreign agencies (Israeli and Russian it seems).

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          If Israel is around in 100 years I’ll eat my shorts. They’re speedrunning being turned into a crater

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            Israel’s nuclear doctrine is the Samson Doctrine.

            Basically, if they get nuked… they nuke Moscow, European capitals, anyone and everyone they can reach.

            So… yeah…

            Its literally ‘kill everyone’.

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              How the heck does the world “negate” or oppose Israel with the Samson Option running around?

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                Well, the difference being that the Iranian strategy is to attack things that can attack them, or people they care about.

                And obviously it is non nuclear.

                If Iran does have any ‘nuclear’ capacity, it would be dirty bombs, not… actual, proper, thermonuclear bombs/warheads.

                The Israel strategy is to intentionally take out friend, foe, in between, with full-on thermonuclear weapons, to simply maximize chaos and maximize the chance of basically secondary retaliatory nuclear strikes against as many other targets as possible.

                Goad the world into destroying itself, get other people to do most of the work for them.

                … See how that’s kind of a recurring pattern?


                If you are unfamiliar with the story of Samson from the Old Testament / Torah:

                Samson, a supernaturally strong warrior, is captured by the Philistines, his magic hair that gives him superhuman strength is shorn off, his eyes are put out.

                But, in his despair, he repents his sins, and God gives him his supernatural strength back.

                Samson, while being paraded and mocked in the Philistine royal court, finds the support beams to the whole building, and shakes them so hard that the entire building collapses, killing himself and everyone else in the Philistine royal court.

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                Yeah the whole area is a hot mess. Always has been though, and always will be, unless of course it’s the nuke o’clock some day.