There’s a distinct lack of competition from Europe when it comes to hyperscalers like AWS or GCP. If you ask me they’re at least two generations behind the US in tech.
ETA: I would love for Europe to be at parity to the US and China, but they’re not. My hope is that open source will help them figure this out quickly.
Yeah, that’s because Europe was moving slower with intention…As they cared about the impact of the technology on their citizens, at least this is how I see it as an American. I always felt that the USA moved way too quickly and without enough regulation to correctly constrain corporations or protect their citizens from said corporations.
You can’t both “move slower with intention” and still consume the “move fast and break things” products.
If Europe is going to allow the big corporations to chip away at their corporations, then they’ll get the worst of both worlds; reliant on foreign technology with no in house capabilities.
That is why Europe needs to invest in true tech sovereignty and not LLMs because LLMs are honestly a dead-end that will only produce useless results. They need to shore up open source projects, OS, infrastructure, sustainable manufacturing, and companies that can provide useful/productive services. I also think that figuring out how to extend the lifetime of already existing tech in a fruitful way…Would be a great route too, permacomputing could be a good avenue to pursue. To cut down reliance on producing a steady stream of components. Instead, creating parts with long-term usability and repairability in mind.
This will reduce and remove the reliance on USA technology, making them powerless in the European space.
Yeah, this is a distraction to make them waste time. In 2 years they could be 100% completely weaned off of Microsoft SaaS if they stepped strategically. That’s much more important than generating pics of big titty anime girls and 15 second videos of talking animals.
Interesting idea on the perma-computing. Imagine if they made modulate repairable gear that could survive a solar flare. Even if it was slow and clunky 90s level CPU tech, critical systems remaining functional when everyone else’s shit gets fried would be a massive win.
European leaders if they play their cards right, they could wean themselves off of Microsoft SaaS in a reasonable timeline and have a sturdy system to rely, I do agree with this statement. The problem is that they’ve been hemming and hawing for way too fucking long on the matter. Not planning a strategic exit by bolstering open source tech and OSes that aren’t controlled by shady US Technofascists. They are finally acting after years of deliberation and they are taking a slow approach this year by investing in open source and first transitioning to open source software/document formats. I can only hope that their plan succeeds, American Technofascists need to fail to hold power in Europe, like they have in China as well. As for the big titty anime girls…Anything has higher priority to me than that in my opinion (I prefer hand-drawn or animated husbandos myself, nothing made using a LLM slop generator). There is no justification of the technology that would pass muster in my opinion, as it is based on theft of copyrighted material, human made creative works, and actively is detrimental to the environment.
As for the permacomputing; it wouldn’t even necessarily have to be clunky 90’s level tech. You could use some modern tech as a base and figure out how to optimize the lifespan of the component and the ability to repair said component. If you also bear in mind that you’d design an OS in tandem with hardware…The experience would be incredibly optimized for daily usage. You could make interfaces that would make everyday people feel comfortable, they could still be reasonably reliable, critical infrastructure would naturally be handled differently. As withstanding a solar flare and being repaired after that disastrous event would be quite handy. The problem with modern tech is that we’ve let manufacturer’s build in planned obsolescence into their products, that planned short lifespan needs to be removed and replaced with long term support!
Still a better hope than what we have here, as long as we can make these Fascist fucks that are in power in the USA realize they can’t win…We’re going to be good. It will just be a long, sustained fight, and they are going to try to destroy our hope constantly. Other countries have won this fight, we fucking can as well…Then we need to address the root cause, as Trump and the technofascists are merely a symptom that manifests.
You could look at it that way. When I look at it, I see the leader walking down a bad path and those trailing behind still have the chance to take a different path. Just because the US ran “ahead” doesn’t mean the world should follow them off a cliff, even if they are screaming “wow, these AI waifus are so cool”. Much of AI isn’t explicitly progress, just change that has been framed as progress through the use of propaganda. If it’s a regressive change, not moving fast could actually result in the EU getting ahead, like a reckless rock climber picking a bad line and falling back down to the last anchor while a careful climber avoids that route.
We have good European clouds, what are they missing in your opinion? In my experience they’re pretty cheap and reliable.
Interestingly I’ve been hosting my shit on EU servers for years with very little issues, while all the US services I use have appalling QoS (Google APIs, and hyperscaler hosted stuff such as N8N and other SaaS products).
There’s a distinct lack of competition from Europe when it comes to hyperscalers like AWS or GCP. If you ask me they’re at least two generations behind the US in tech.
ETA: I would love for Europe to be at parity to the US and China, but they’re not. My hope is that open source will help them figure this out quickly.
Yeah, that’s because Europe was moving slower with intention…As they cared about the impact of the technology on their citizens, at least this is how I see it as an American. I always felt that the USA moved way too quickly and without enough regulation to correctly constrain corporations or protect their citizens from said corporations.
You can’t both “move slower with intention” and still consume the “move fast and break things” products.
If Europe is going to allow the big corporations to chip away at their corporations, then they’ll get the worst of both worlds; reliant on foreign technology with no in house capabilities.
That is why Europe needs to invest in true tech sovereignty and not LLMs because LLMs are honestly a dead-end that will only produce useless results. They need to shore up open source projects, OS, infrastructure, sustainable manufacturing, and companies that can provide useful/productive services. I also think that figuring out how to extend the lifetime of already existing tech in a fruitful way…Would be a great route too, permacomputing could be a good avenue to pursue. To cut down reliance on producing a steady stream of components. Instead, creating parts with long-term usability and repairability in mind.
This will reduce and remove the reliance on USA technology, making them powerless in the European space.
Yeah, this is a distraction to make them waste time. In 2 years they could be 100% completely weaned off of Microsoft SaaS if they stepped strategically. That’s much more important than generating pics of big titty anime girls and 15 second videos of talking animals.
Interesting idea on the perma-computing. Imagine if they made modulate repairable gear that could survive a solar flare. Even if it was slow and clunky 90s level CPU tech, critical systems remaining functional when everyone else’s shit gets fried would be a massive win.
European leaders if they play their cards right, they could wean themselves off of Microsoft SaaS in a reasonable timeline and have a sturdy system to rely, I do agree with this statement. The problem is that they’ve been hemming and hawing for way too fucking long on the matter. Not planning a strategic exit by bolstering open source tech and OSes that aren’t controlled by shady US Technofascists. They are finally acting after years of deliberation and they are taking a slow approach this year by investing in open source and first transitioning to open source software/document formats. I can only hope that their plan succeeds, American Technofascists need to fail to hold power in Europe, like they have in China as well. As for the big titty anime girls…Anything has higher priority to me than that in my opinion (I prefer hand-drawn or animated husbandos myself, nothing made using a LLM slop generator). There is no justification of the technology that would pass muster in my opinion, as it is based on theft of copyrighted material, human made creative works, and actively is detrimental to the environment.
As for the permacomputing; it wouldn’t even necessarily have to be clunky 90’s level tech. You could use some modern tech as a base and figure out how to optimize the lifespan of the component and the ability to repair said component. If you also bear in mind that you’d design an OS in tandem with hardware…The experience would be incredibly optimized for daily usage. You could make interfaces that would make everyday people feel comfortable, they could still be reasonably reliable, critical infrastructure would naturally be handled differently. As withstanding a solar flare and being repaired after that disastrous event would be quite handy. The problem with modern tech is that we’ve let manufacturer’s build in planned obsolescence into their products, that planned short lifespan needs to be removed and replaced with long term support!
Yep. But that caution had a trade off and they’re now having to play catch-up
Eh, I still take Europe’s situation over the tech hellscape of the USA right now…If I’m totally honest. It’s so cursed here.
Same. Even as an American I still find Europe the largest hope for democracy and the rule of law.
And it’s not a very big hope.
Still a better hope than what we have here, as long as we can make these Fascist fucks that are in power in the USA realize they can’t win…We’re going to be good. It will just be a long, sustained fight, and they are going to try to destroy our hope constantly. Other countries have won this fight, we fucking can as well…Then we need to address the root cause, as Trump and the technofascists are merely a symptom that manifests.
You could look at it that way. When I look at it, I see the leader walking down a bad path and those trailing behind still have the chance to take a different path. Just because the US ran “ahead” doesn’t mean the world should follow them off a cliff, even if they are screaming “wow, these AI waifus are so cool”. Much of AI isn’t explicitly progress, just change that has been framed as progress through the use of propaganda. If it’s a regressive change, not moving fast could actually result in the EU getting ahead, like a reckless rock climber picking a bad line and falling back down to the last anchor while a careful climber avoids that route.
Yes. Awful things are awful. Humans suck. Etc.
This is an insane take lol.
We have good European clouds, what are they missing in your opinion? In my experience they’re pretty cheap and reliable.
Interestingly I’ve been hosting my shit on EU servers for years with very little issues, while all the US services I use have appalling QoS (Google APIs, and hyperscaler hosted stuff such as N8N and other SaaS products).