• LordGimp@lemm.ee
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    18 days ago

    Why does “violent drug addicts with severe mental illness” mean somehow they shouldn’t be helped anyways?

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    20 days ago

    ‘but if they aren’t hungry and homeless where will their motivation to become professionals and have children come from?’ they are actually this fucking stupid.

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    20 days ago

    A billionaire is the equivalent of a person sitting in a cafeteria who bought every piece of food in the restaurant kitchen and doesn’t want to share any of it with the thousand people sitting around him even though he’ll never be able to eat all the food they bought.

    Owning and controlling so much wealth that you’ll never be able to enjoy everything you have in a lifetime isn’t a success or a sign of intelligence … it’s a mental illness. Especially when all that wealth and control could mean the life or death of thousands or millions of people everywhere.

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      20 days ago

      There are exceptions. Warren Buffet (as an example) has given away a large fraction of his wealth, and pledged/planned to give 99% of it over his lifetime (he is 94). It’s a sane strategy to let his shares appreciate and “maximize” his charity.

      For a billionaire, he lives modestly and speaks reasonably. He has a sanely sized house. His kids are getting an inheritance, but not a stupidly large one.

      Look, I want to tax the shit out of billionaires too, I just object to blanket labeling any group as mentally ill. You know, like Musk did in OP’s post.

  • JailElonMusk@sopuli.xyz
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    20 days ago

    Alright I’ll bite, even if Hairplug Himmler is right (and let’s be perfectly clear, he’s not).

    Why wouldn’t we as Americans want to help our fellow citizens overcome drug use, treat mental illness, and help rehabilitation efforts on their behalf?

    ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE “VIOLENT” and “on the street”. Wouldn’t we want to help them get off the streets?

    Wouldn’t that make us safer, happier, healthier, and dare I say… Great Again? Wouldn’t that protect citizens and police officers alike at a lower cost than incarceration? (Spoiler alert it would, but there’s no private for profit companies offering this service).

    Wouldn’t these people become tax payers? Employees contributing to society? Become future homebuyers and start a family?

    These empathy lacking neo-fascist clowns can’t stop punching down to those less fortunate (while claiming the lords name in vain) and I can’t wait for the day we get the opportunity to match their empathy as they head to prison (preferably one in El Salvador).

  • Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml
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    19 days ago

    I’m surprised he chose to express his point in this manner. Unless this is an expression of humanity from Mr Musk that we’re so otherwise unaccustomed to that it’s hard to recognise, then I assume he wants to persuade people to have less empathy or sympathy for homeless people, not more. This statement, taken at face value would seem to suggest that contrary to what some may think, homeless people are facing significant challenges not of their own making that have contributed directly to their circumstances.

    I’m going to guess that’s not how he meant it

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    20 days ago

    where does he even get that idea? i never heard people refer to Elon as homeless.

    • LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee
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      20 days ago

      Not sure what you mean.

      Edit: I’m dumb. The joke is that Elon is a drug addict. Hit me a few minutes later.

      • tedd_deireadh@lemmy.world
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        20 days ago

        It’s a joke. He’s implying that Elon is a violent drug addict with severe mental illness. Which is, of course, true.

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    20 days ago

    It’s amazing that a man who does enough ket to bring down a racehorse even dares to use the phrase “drug addict” as an insult.

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      19 days ago

      Not unusual for addicts to displace blame onto the people around them in order to justify their addictions.

      The difference between Musk, Thiel, et al and your average American junkie is simply their line of credit. They can keep taking experimental intoxicants, safe in the knowledge their friends will loan them another $2M the next time they wrap their McLauren around a stop sign.

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    Even taking his bullshit argument at face value, he thinks the best solution for these violent drug addicts is to leave them out of the street? Who is the audience here? If you literally think they are all violent, why is leaving them free to roam around the right solution?

    I know it’s all about money and grandstanding on his part but this definitely seems like some under-the-influence kind of deep thoughts.

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      I can’t speak for Elon (and will not defend him) but Kyle (from Secular Talk) is dramatically underestimating the problem by tossing out the $20 billion figure. You can’t just throw a bunch of money at a person with severe mental illnesses and addictions and just expect them to be okay.

      The state of California has spent over $24 billion on homelessness since 2019 yet the number of homeless people in the state has grown by 20%. Obviously they aren’t spending the money wisely in a manner that would maximize reduction of homelessness, but Kyle didn’t specify how the money should be spent either. Perhaps that’s actually the hard problem: how do you spend the money in the way that would be most effective?

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    19 days ago

    the US in total is a right-wing place that thinks that “hard work” is the way of life, and anybody who doesn’t adhere to that is a “drug-addict” or a psychopath.