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Considering the kinds of men who tend to seek out much younger women, it’s less “funny” and more “very concerning”.
I’m 40, I couldn’t fathom the effort required to date anyone under the age of 25
I’m in my mid 40s and my hard limit is 30. I’m thinking of raising that to 35 after a few bad relationships.
As a 33 year old, I went on a date with a 22 year old and yeah I just couldn’t. I felt like I was babysitting. I can date a guy 20 years older but no one younger than me
I know these are just general limits nothing concrete but I just imagined ya rejecting a guy cuz he was born one picosecond after you.
Standards are standards.
no, they are arbitrary bullshit you tell yourself to make you feel like you have control or give you ready made excuses to keep making the same mistakes, over and over and over, rather than trying something different that might make you genuinely happy.
someone’s age, or height, or amount of income/wealth isn’t going to make you happy and fulfilled. but you tell yourself it will because it feels like it’s something you can control. of course, the irony being the other person could just lie about those things…
Daddy chill
I wanted to say you’d save that word for me but i’m actually a year younger. Guess i’ll seduce ur mom so you legally have to call me dad
age has nothing to do with it.
someone who was immature and selfish at 30, is going to be worse at 40. people dont grow out of who they are, they just become more of what they are.
Soo you need more energy to party and keep up with them BUT the key is finding a young one that doesn’t know what a healthy relationship looks like. That way you save on having to put effort into the relationship and support them and all that other stuff you need to do with a mature partner
Soo you need more energy to party
Wait, I was supposed to do that?
The energy required is more a reflection of their extrovertedness, not young age
Eh. I’m pretty introverted and I still went drinking, dancing etc. regularly in my early 20s. I don’t go out at all nowadays due to health issues and generally lower energy levels.
I refused to date people under 25 when I was 29, but got offended that a 40 year old would not date bellow 30.
i’m 40 and I have lost all interest in dating anyone of any age… because the return on investment of my time/energy just never happens. It just feels like I’m gambling and hoping I’ll get a jackpot, but all I’m doing is throwing away money and time that would be better invested in other things.
and when I made the choice to stop prioritizing dating/relationships/friends… my life vastly improved and it does feel like I hit the jackpot. and now I just end up meeting people who are still addicting to gambling and looking for me to be their ‘get out of depression/debt/misery’ jackpot.
I dated my wife when she was 19 and so was I. As I was a dick then, this all tracks.
(I’m also a dick now, but I was a dick then too #mitchHedberg)
Did you used to do drugs?
asked my wife about this, she told me to fuck off and that it she still can’t talk to her mother about that.
Which is weird because I was the person she dated when she was 19
Same
Can confirm, I was awkward and embarrassing as a 19-yr old. I’m sorry to all my ex-girlfriends back then.
Granted, most of them dated me because I had a “bad boy” look and they were disappointed when they found out I was actually a quiet, introverted nerd. I was almost always the dumpee in my relationships.
I’m sorry those girls couldn’t appreciate your kind, quiet personality beyond your looks. Hope you find someone who feels lucky to have a “bad boy” with a sensitive soul.
I eventually found my soulmate later in life, who is also an introverted nerd. She also pursued me for my looks initially, but stayed because we were intellectual twins.
If there’s any advice I can give for relationships, it’s to look for someone you can be best friends with. If you’re in a relationship just for looks, understand that looks fade.
I’m in my 40s now and gaining weight due to disabilities that prevent me from exercising. Plus I’m starting to bald and growing thick hair literally everywhere else. I’m no longer the “ruggedly handsome young man” I used to be as a teenager. My wife still loves me and cherishes time with me, because we’re best friends, not shallow lovers.
A lot of younger people seem to idealize their partners. At 19 I was set on a pedestal by my then-boyfriend, like I was supposed to be some manic pixie dream girl free of any and all flaws. So when I started showing signs of being an actual human instead of the perfect doll he was imagining, he turned from love to resentment quick enough to make my head spin.
This is why I think it’s important for people to grow up seeing real girls/women. Could be moms, sisters, girls their age in the community. By real I mean people living real life, no makeup,no running somewhere else to fart, or not talking back for themselves.
Less and less the boys grow up seeing that, more and more they start to idolize women, and then have high expectations. Because all they have seen is from movies, TVs, internet.
lots of women would never want to be that way around anyone.
i have known women who dressed up w/ full make up to go to the drug story while they had the flu, because the could not bare the though of a random drug store cashier not seeing them at their best. and if you pointed out how miserable and stupid it all was, they would call you a asshole who had no pride in your appearance.
they also refused to admit they farted or pooped or anything human like that. and plenty of men are like that too.
At 19, there’s a much higher percentage of people who just don’t know what a real, healthy relationship looks like and can only go by whatever examples they have in their lives and whatever their favored media is selling to them. Aside from the exhaustion, I can’t imagine dating anyone under 25 because I can’t believe that they would be dating me as a person. It seems like standard procedure that everyone has to go around and collect some relationship ‘war stories’ before they’re ready to settle down and date for real.
I’m embarrassed about who my wife dated when she was 19. She tells these stories and all I can think is why didn’t you dump me?
“Dont you get it? I love you because youre not that [context - rich/handsome/strong/popular/whatever] kind of guy”
Best not to pull at that thread. Only misery and confusion is at the end
Nah I was kind of a jerk.
I think it’s pretty simple. Just because there are better people than you around, it doesn’t mean she’s able to pull them
My advice to a friend was “If he’s so mature, why aren’t all the mature women lining up to date him?”
At 19, I don’t think the advice stuck
Yeah, this argument fails to address how men get to experience relationships. One man could be your perfect partner but he simply doesn’t put himself in positions to meet/date new people.
I know its easy to assume men get propositioned the same way women do but that’s simply not true.
I’m a man.
I have had limited relationships in my life.
I still don’t think that older men acting predatory to young women who don’t have the same life experience as them is cool or valid.
This has little to do with the scarce dating scene for incels, and more to do with men who focus on young women because women their age know they are skeezy.
Ah, my B. Yeah, had an ex of mine date a 17 yo and it made me sick on the stomach.
those older men and those younger women both know what they are doing. they really do, but they will pretend they don’t because plausible deniability.
and they don’t care what anyone else thinks about it. they are just seeking fantasy fulfillment, like the rest of us. their fantasies are just different.
Women only line up for rock stars mate
And baristas.
And pharmacists I guess
As a woman person I can confirm my worst choices were when I was still young and developing. I wasn’t 19, but 20.
My choices didn’t get much better, but thats why I eventually stopped dating entirely. I’m a shit judge of mates, and choose the worst for me (yay trauma!!) so I just don’t anymore, it’s so much easier. I’m tired of trying to grow and being brought back down by shitty men. Much rather bring myself down.
However of all the bad, that age brought me the worst. He turned out to be a convicted felon rapist (not of me. happened after he stalked me for 2 years which was itself after he moved 1300 miles to be close to me when I left him and moved home), which I discovered through court access years later. I dodged that bullet, for sure. I mean it grazed me, but didn’t hit. Sorry to the lady behind me. :(
Now I feel better about the guy she left me for just as she was turning 19.
It was her biggest mistake not mine!
/j
I feel attacked, the mother of my children was 19 when we met.
Dated a 34 year old dude when I was 19 because I was rebounding hard and he could buy me booze. He was about as mature as I was at the time.
Why is maturity important again?
Immaturity leads to poor decisions, disregard for consent, short-sightedness etc
Would liking Pokemon, believing anime is real life, and having a cringe sense of humor count as immaturity? Asking for a friend.
Not necessarily, you can have all that and still act with maturity
To a degree, yes, but that’s not the problematic kind of immaturity. One can be immature in some things like believing in monsters under the bed (things that don’t matter) while being mature about fire while camping or alcohol and driving (things that matter).
lmao plenty of idiots maturely making stupid decisions
Most of the time “immature” is just a vague insult when someone doesn’t conform to the speaker’s norms.
Experienced this literally when my grandparents said “come back and eat here, you are not a baby”.
I had very good reasons not to eat, they just can’t comprehend this anymore.
As a parent who also has some younger friends, maturity is more about decision making skills, particularly under pressure. When SHTF do they shut down or do they figure out how to move forwards? Do they call for help when out of their depth or do they just flail and make things worse? Do they step up and do what needs to be done to get things going in the right direction or do they just let problems compound until it’s a bigger challenge? This is maturity. Being able to figure out what you need to do and then doing it, and adjusting when things don’t go how you expected is maturity.
Immaturity is being unable to step up when the time demands it. Unable to comprehend when to take something seriously vs what you can blow it off. For example, interpreting maturity as purely “societal expectations” is indicative of immaturity
Most of the time
purely
I certainly wish everyone used your definition, and hope I didn’t give the wrong impression with my comment.
Edit: the claim that critiquing this practice itself is immature is a bit of a bulverism.
I think for most men it is also the lowest of our dating standards. Everyone was just so dumb.
I think you’ve missed that’s she’s referring to men in their 30s dating 19 year olds
Maybe what OP meant was 19 was the loest of the man’s dating standards, reguardless of the man’s age.
I have seen an 18 old say he dated a 40 year old woman and apparently, he had a good time
That’s because 40 yo women are fucking awesome
No shit. But it was weird that she was dating someone that young.
Yeah its really young, but women can be underage sex pests too. I was just commenting on your friend having a good time, not that the age diff is appropriate
Yeah well, not my friend though. I probably read it on Reddit. Once upon a time, before it became Palantir puppet number 5
Bro was 18, he would have a good time with a blender mate.
Yup, shortly before I hit 20 I got into a spectacularly bad idea of a relationship with a 37 year old woman.
Depending on where you’re at this can be more or less common - college being a key exception. My wife and I met first day of college, started dating at 18. Neither of us expected the relationship to last particularly long but we fell in love and it stayed that way for the duration of school. Neither of us wanted to end a relationship that clearly worked well despite having never experienced any other relationship before. The interesting part to me is that there were several other couples on the same floor of our dorm with the exact same situation, and more than a decade on they like us are still together.
Same here, but we met in October instead of our first day. I’ve been happily married for 25 years to the guy I was dating at 19. A lot of other couples from our dorm are also still married.
