I see “banned from community”
I look inside
Hating on americans
Oh my, what have they ever done wrong?
Fuck you for trash talking Ukraine and Palestine. It’s shitty to use the mass suffering of millions for internet points.
Also, elite rage bait, I’ve got the grimble grumbles now.
Wait how is he trash talking Palestine? This meme is criticizing how military actions of the Palestinian resistance are portrayed in the media. It’s clearly a pro-palestinian meme.
It reduces the horrors of conflict down to binary of ‘my team good, your team bad’ which I get us the point but it’s unfair (imo) to equate the actions of oppressed/attacked states to the massively powerful imperial states. Maybe my interpretation is fucked up but my first glance at this meme triggered my bleeding heart.
Right, but how does it trash talk Palestine though?
In the same way it does Ukraine
So you didn’t get the meme.
I thought the meme implies an inverse and was deeper than just west bashing. Mb.
What did you think it implied?
fuck ukraine
Yeah he got u
Oh boy did they hahah, got dragged in the replies too dammit. Ahh oh well, such is the internet.
LOL don’t think you got it.
I don’t think the sufferings of either Ukrainians or Palestinians are related to this meme.
It’s about the media, and I am furious when Ukraine and Israel wrongdoings are justified
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Ukraine got couped by the US in 2014, the current government is completely illegitimate, Russia would be doing them a favor by taking over and chasing us out
I’m sure the relatives of the innocent civilian victims will agree with you and thank Putin for bombing them.
I’m sure the relatives of the 14,000 people killed by Ukranian nazis before Russia entered the war would love to hear your justifications for it.
Justifications? Every kill is bad wtf are u even talking about 😂😂😂
“Every kill is bad I just happen to only equivocate and make excuses when it’s Russian people dying”
Cool story
Badass bro. Nothing screams “I don’t care” like posting this 😂😂
Russia doesn’t bomb civilians unlike ukraine.
And it saved a lot of innocent civilian victims from being ethnic cleansed.
As they had been trying to do since the 2014 coup.
But again the same double standards, the west didn’t really care about what their proxy nazi’s did to them.They killed civilians. I have a friend who has a relative killed.
These things happen in war unfortunately.
When there are attacks with 500+ of drones and many missiles per day with only a handful of civilian casualties it’s pretty clear that they are not ‘targeting civilians and wanting to make as many casualties as possible’ as the western propaganda claim.
Unlike ukrainians that deliberately target civilian infrastructure, from schools to hospitals.The comment @TDSOJohn@lemmy.world was replying was about “doing them a favor”. I don’t think any sane Ukrainian would say “thanks” for what Russia is doing.
Unlike ukrainians that deliberately target civilian infrastructure, from schools to hospitals.
It’s a bit of a stretch. Both sides did similar things.
No, there is no denying the difference, they are not the same.
My comment is based on facts.
I don’t think the main target is civilians, I think they have better targets (strategically speaking), you are right in this
This is lemmy.ml vro
Is it the place where people stop using their brains? O.O sorry first time here lol
I’ve been under the impression it’s sort of a “tankie” place that glorifies enemies of the USA indiscriminately. So saying bad things about Putin will get you downvoted
There are a lot of communists here. We don’t “glorify enemies of the USA indiscriminately,” but we do oppose western framing and propaganda. There are plenty of valid reasons to be critical of Putin.
Thanks for the info, seems to be the case 😅 will definitely refrain from commenting more here
Here you get FACTS, not simply western propaganda.
You’re welcome to go to some right-wing circle jerk (which is most of .world) and stay in your bubble if you can’t handle that.
Most of the rabid McCarthyists get angry immediately when they invariably lose the discussion against knowledgeable people and resort to vulgar insults.
On par with their beliefs.
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Not surprising most people who downvoted this is a .world user and piefed.world users
Why is it not surprising?
Because fuck shitlibs
Helpful
how do you see vote sources?
Be an admin, or a moderator of the community the post/comment is in.
Im an admin on db0, I can see voting data
I will never forget that piece of shit Matthew Miller shedding a tear for the poor children of Ukraine during the Russian Invasion and then shrugging and effectively saying " its war stuff happens" when confronted with the horrific massacre of children in Gaza by the Zionist regime.
The Empire is bipartisan.
this whole community is pure liberal rage bait isn’t it? I am not complaining but you guys really do like to trigger
We’re gonna start cracking down on the rage-bait posting a little bit.
Honestly a bit of bait is good. I have enjoyed reading the discussions that emerged in some of those threads. I see this post for what it is: bait. You could make less provocative posts but even then some people just want to read it as tankie propaganda.
Maybe we should create a community called “tankie memes” for when you do want to go all out and trigger people
Some of the bait can be nice, but in my opinion I think we lean too far into the bait and too far into “dunking.” This isn’t a condemnation based on civility politics, but a rational desire to focus on higher quality posts and comments for onlookers. Being as edgy as possible can spark constructive conversation in the comments, but constructive conversation can also happen with good agitprop that has a convincing argument within the meme itself.
Seems to mostly be jank doing it for the rage bait, pre-jank it was definitely more pro-communist but less rage bait focused. Not necessarily a bad thing, but not how I would do it either.
i’ve had the same thought before. lol
The armchair propaganda and meme critic in me thinks this also conflates anti-imperial violence with imperial/settler-colonial violence and perhaps could better communicate the reality in some other way. Violence is necessary in struggles against violent oppression and resistance is not equivalent to ethnic cleansing, genocide, economic siege, or liberal coups.
lemmy need reactions for things this lit
+1
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Where do you see jankforlife’s pronouns?
in the misogyny hole
I know, just want them to have to admit that publicly, if possible. I find having people explain their views leads them to reconsidering them in cases like this more frequently than just nakedly calling them a misogynist would.
fair, though piefeds can’t see me anyway afaik
i’m a spooky ghost etc.
I think .Zip’s can!
Fangirl is gender neutral. But if you prefer fanperson I’m fine with it. Stop distracting from the topic that this person spams this feed with pro war propaganda
No? Girl is a clearly gendered term. I also don’t see how this is a “pro-war” meme.
No, it’s a stylistic piece in wording. But I get your confusion.
Watch the recent history of OPs posts. It’s Pro Russian Spam.
imho Accounts shouldn’t be allowed to post more than twice a day in the same community
Lol, there is literally nothing pro-Russian about this. It has a Russian flag with the implication that liberals see anything Russia does as a war crime even if the same kind of (or worse) atrocities committed by the US are deemed “unfortunate but necessary.” In other words, you don’t even have to accept that Russia isn’t committing war crimes to recognize the truth of the double standard the meme is pointing out. You are a prime example of the kind of dingus this meme is making fun of.
You, a liberal glimpsing a hint of reality for once in their western-propaganda-saturated life: “Russian Propaganda! [misgendering and/or homophobia]! Putin disinformatzia! [Racism!]” You haven’t gotten to the racism part yet, but the thread is young. Here, I’ll help you along by explaining some facts for you: Russia entered an ongoing civil war and put a stop to the ethnic cleansing that the Nazi Ukrainian government was perpetrating against Ukraine’s eastern population who desperately wanted help from Russia. Fortunately, Russia entering the conflict prevented many more war crimes from being committed by the fascist Kiev regime.
Edit to add because this is just funny:
Accounts shouldn’t be allowed to post more than twice a day in the same community
What a great way to stymie a community and cut down on the thing we all hate: content. Your inability to understand how the world works seems to extend even to the fundamentals of internet forums.
You really believe that Ukraine is a Nazi regime, and you accuse others for falling for propaganda? Yikes
the american congress tried banned weapons sales to ukraine because of its nazis proclivities in 2015; how are you slower than congress on this?
Yes, and I believe it because I have been following what has been happening in Ukraine since well before February of 2022. The fact that you are unaware of this fact (even one recognized by western media before the SMO) is what is yikes. Thanks to u/freagle for providing some of the mountains of evidence demonstrating beyond all doubt that the Kiev regime is literally a Nazi regime, the most openly Nazi state regime in the world, in fact.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/11/ultranationalism-in-ukraine-a-photo-essay
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2015-06-12/ukraine-s-neo-nazis-won-t-get-u-s-money
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.html
https://truthout.org/articles/nyt-discovers-ukraines-neo-nazis-at-war/
https://www.reuters.com/article/opinion/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TC/
Girl is one of the most gendered terms, and calling someone who’s gender is unclear or otherwise not explicitly feminine a “fangirl” draws on misogynistic perceptions.
Either way, I don’t think it’s unknown that OP is pro-Russian, but I don’t see how that translates to being pro-war.
You’re both right - it is a gendered noun, it is a genderless verb. The line has become blurred between the two distinctions, and ‘fangirl’ is often used as a genderless noun as well. “I am a [thing] fangirl” is a common phrasing online irrespective of gender.
And the term itself relies on misogyny. Just because a word can be used in a certain fashion does not mean it should be.
Maybe it’s a language thing, I don’t wanna discuss this because this is not what my comment was about.
By repeating Russian propaganda and lies that was used to justify attacking Ukraine, bombing hospitals and killing civilians.
What lies are being repeated? It’s definitely pro-Russian, but what is the lie?
Is the “Russian propaganda” in the room with you now?
imho Accounts shouldn’t be allowed to post more than twice a day in the same community
It’s a meme community. People will post more frequently here.
So you think 5 political propaganda posts in 10minutes by the same Person are good for the climate inside the community? Brave…
No, it’s a stylistic piece in wording.
Bullshit hall of fame entry right here
Top tier meme lumping Russia with Palestine
In my opinion, war is always full of crime. You can have crime without war, but you can’t have war without crime. If by “war crime” you mean Geneva convention, nobody follows that, either.
The winner prosecutes the loser, no exceptions.
This is the rhetoric western imperialists use to normalise their atrocities
Every time I see such memes, I remind myself that lemmy.ml is blocked in:
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China (including Hong Kong)
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Iran
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North Korea
It is currently unblocked in:
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The United States
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Israel (and Palestine)
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Ukraine
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EU
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Pretty much the rest of the world
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Russia
Though I worry about Russia, as they’ve already blocked Bluesky and at least one part of the fediverse: https://lemmy.world/post/14156170
(And FYI I checked these regions myself, with a VPN, and then when another external tool, just now).
I browsed lemmy.ml plenty in China. Not sure what you’re on about.
now do the Russian channels that are blocked in the west.
Like what? RT is not blocked for me; I read an article from there once in awhile. Neither is the Russian government website or anything else I can think to test.
Well it is for me in Europe, same as plenty of other channels.
I guess Big Brother decided for us that we can only get one narrative.
Don’t really see how that matters.
Because that moose account loves to deflect?
Don’t really see how that matters.
In other words, it’s… unfortunate, but necessary?
No?
Because blocking web sites is worse than bombing civilians for decades, right?
Cool story
Check yourself. Go to any IP tester or http resolver, or try your own VPN.
Because lemmy.ml federates with the broader Lemmyverse. So if instances like .world is blocked, that same content is visible on .ml so it’s blocked too.
Defederate from us and we might have a chance.
As of this post, Lemmy.world is not blocked in China. Neither is piefed.social.
But lemmy.ml is blocked in China.
Interesting, TIL.
What is your point?
In response to:
Because lemmy.ml federates with the broader Lemmyverse. So if instances like .world is blocked, that same content is visible on .ml so it’s blocked too. Defederate from us and we might have a chance.
lemmy.ml was not blocked because of lemmy.world. Or other federated instances, as far as I can tell through testing a few.
.ml was blocked because the .ml domain was blocked due to it being a free domain mostly used for spam (although I’m sure some groups/sites have petitioned and had their non spam sites unblocked). Also things being blocked by the firewall doesn’t really mean much on a personal level when we all have a VPN. You clearly don’t understand the purpose of the firewall.
My question is why bring it up in the first place?
Liberals love this little factoid because it makes China seem “authoritarian” and therefore “bad” when in reality you can just use a VPN and do whatever you want. it’s (one of the ways) kinda how I get free stuff in the USA and I hate computers you just gotta do a tiny tiny bit of research but I’ve seen in China it’s like an open secret you could prob just get some stranger to tell you how
Yep, or they think it’s ironic that a pro-China instance is blocked in China. The problem is the Mali domain, not an ideological difference.
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Tell me that you dont understand anything of world politics without telling me that you dont understand anything of world politics.
What about this is inaccurate?
typical firebombing enjoyer
Same to you
Go back to Reddit
