• kersploosh@sh.itjust.works
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      15 days ago

      Teaching people not to be dickweeds, and trying to not be dickweeds ourselves, is the Sisyphean task of all good people.

      • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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        15 days ago

        Eh, I think Buddhism is moreso about managing longings to minimize personal suffering.

        Y’all seem to be extrapolating things from the OP that I’m not sure is really there.

          • AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml
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            14 days ago

            People added the “Life is” part. The four noble truths are written like a doctor’s diagnosis for the time.

            Issue: Suffering, particularly clinging to the aggregates
            Cause: Craving Is it treatable: Yes, by ending craving
            Prescription: Eightfold path

            Buddhism doesn’t deny that life contains pleasure and joy. In a very real way, part of the path includes its development through the jhanas, or right concentration.

            • MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              15 days ago

              Right. So that seems pretty similar to

              So perpetual horror and sadness is the human condition, regardless of how much we try to teach people not to be dickweeds

              doesn’t it?

              • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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                15 days ago

                Not to my mind, sorry.
                Now, I don’t mean to disagree for the sake of internet battles or ego (because who the hell am I?),

                But… I find OP’s statement a super-generalistic, toxic, self-defeating takeaway from both the OP quote, and as you say, Buddhism in general. (that said, there are plenty of valid critiques upon various schools of Buddhism IMO)

    • BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world
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      15 days ago

      If you truly believe in kindness, know this: It must be cultivated, it must be won, fiercely, and it must be defended, with every last drop of blood

    • cynar@lemmy.world
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      15 days ago

      We claw at the walls of the hole, till our fingers are bloody, knowing we won’t achieve much. However, with enough time and effort, those scrapes will become the footholds for future generations to climb that much higher out of hell. Just as we stand braced by the effort of our ancestors.

      It’s not an easy climb, but each attempt makes the next one that bit easier.

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          The goal isn’t to get out, just improving things is a win. Even when we backslide, reclimbing an existing path, or forging a new one, based on the lessons of a failed path is an improvement.

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              15 days ago

              Each step up is still an improvement, in absolute terms. Most of human development has been finding out how to move up the hole.

              I’m happy if I can leave things for our children even slightly better than we received it. It’s the ultimate relay race.

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                  15 days ago

                  Welcome to life. I can’t get you out of it, all I can do is make it that bit better, in the hope that you can build on that further.

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    No one listens to old people because, “Ew”.

    But, also because old people’s advice can be, not necessarily is, but can be outdated and irrelevant. So, it can take some effort to parse and sort what they say.

    Young person says something.

    Old person, “Yes, I remember believing that, here’s why I changed my mind. Have you considered…”

    Young person: “You smell bad.”

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    16 days ago

    Yeah, but previously these people threatened cities, states, even nations and ethnic groups. Today I claim it’s different. These people are threatening humanity as a whole and life itself. One cannot be docile