• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    Conservatives are EXTREMELY good at indoctrination. The kids will unfortunatley probably never question their racist father’s racist remarks.

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      Between home schooling and only hanging out with other church folk it’s evil and apparently not really effective if it can be all undone with a year of university.

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      It’s not really that so much as Indians of high caste (which his wife is) basically consider themselves ‘white’. So as far as they’re concerned he’s talking about other people, not them.

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        Casteism and racism are functionally equivalent. Both are based on how / where you’re born rather than who you are.

        For centuries, people of European descent saw themselves as the global upper caste because of their skin tone and heritage.

        It’s taken time to undo that regressive thinking, and even though there are some white people who continue to think themselves superior today, most are not racist.

        Similarly there are people of Indian upper caste heritage that do not support caste discrimination / supremacy.

        I can’t speak for Usha Vance herself but her mom, in her capacity as provost of the University of California San Diego’s Sixth College, created a pilot course on race, ethnicity and gender in biology and medicine, served on the university’s biological sciences diversity committee, and wrote proudly of her school’s commitment to diversity.

        I strongly doubt that she sees herself as “white”. She also does not strike me as a woman that would raise a family with racist or casteist values. Where Usha went wrong is anyone’s guess (probably at some point in her education in the US / meeting Vance) but her heritage likely has little to do with it if her mom was championing these values openly.

        Both casteism and racism must be abolished.

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      just look trumps children, ERIC or JR wanted to be independent(join the services) in thier youths, but trump threatened them he will cut them out of his WEALTH they do not behave. his daughters, DIL are all on board with trump.

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    “A multi ethnic America is dirty!” he said about a country that exists from the colonisation and immigration of a hundred different ethnicities.

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      Maybe he thinks that the whites in America should go back to England???!

      Because the one true original ethnicity in America are Native-Indians and everybody else who came afterwards, including his own ancestors, were the ones making it multi-ethnic.

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        Pretty sure there were also Germans, and Poles, and French, and Swedish, and Dutch, and Spanish, and Portuguese, and Italians, and quite a lot of Irish and one particular point in history.

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          Oh, yeah, the “Go back home to England” is just a saying rather than representative of historical reality.

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        The remaining tribes would then proceed to kill each other (as they did before the English ever arrived).

        The tribes were not one ethnicity, either.

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    the german far right leader (female) is married to an indian sri lankan woman and when asked about how that relates to her plans of deporting brown people she said her wife ‘does not count because she was adopted by a white family in switzerland’

    i mean, they also run a populist platform aimed at poor people with a libertarian program to wipe out social assistance though, so why am i even suprised by the hypocrisy?

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        fair enough, corrected!

        also, who is openly pride, alice or her wife? apparently they also have some kids and are in a civil partnership, but she does oppose same sex marriage (because ‘tradition’ of course?). i always have that mental gymnastics meme in my head when i read about her or hear her speak… x)

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    He said it’s become dirtier and poorer since Trump’s first term, which is actually true.

    It’s just that it also got dirtier and poorer during trump’s first term too.

    trump broke a bunch of shit, and Biden didn’t fix it. Now Trump’s breaking more shit and we’re gonna keep getting dirtier and poorer.

    Has nothing to do with with ethnic makeup tho.

  • Vance is one of those freaky shapeshifters whose positions and principles contort anew as necessary to stay adjacent to power.

    His kids are likely not just traumatized by him but terrified of the kind of monster he is.

    They hate and fear him already.

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      hes only a puppet of thiel, hes pulling the strings. once thiel is out of the picture some how, vance is but an empty shell.

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    Most Indians in American politics are Republicans. Those repubs think they are white. I feel Usha and her kids don’t see the brown when they look in the mirror. Sad.

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      Many certainly have been but there have been several on the left also. Arguably the most prominent on the left today in American politics is also of Indian heritage - ZM.

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          Most Indians are right wingers based on what data? According to Carnegie’s 2024 Indian American Attitudes Survey (IAAS) 60% of Indian Americans intended to vote for Harris and 30% for Trump. There is no granular post election data at this demographic level, only for Asians in general, but this is skewed towards democrat more than almost any other minority group, most of which were closer to a 50-50 split this election.

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            In their country, not according to US politics. Most Indians in India support Modi.

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              OleChicoAle’s post was about Indians in America. What Indians in India think about Zohran Mamdani is irrelevant.

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              Modi won 36% of the popular vote. Trump won 49.8% in comparison.

              If we look at population data as a whole, 17% of Indians voted for Modi and 23% of Americans voted for Trump.

              Living in America, I don’t feel that most Americans support Trump. I’m not sure how we can say most Indians support Modi when an even lower percentage of the population voted for him.

              Modi’s approval ratings are higher

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      funny that there hasnt been many INdian related hate compared to other POC. yea doge definitely increased it, but it hasnt stuck for long, part of it might be that many "industries depend on indians to survive.

      its because indians coming from a HIgher caste in indian culture, they believe they are above the lower caste. so when they see whiteness as epitome of wealth and power, thats how they identify it as. and many indians from these castes are often very wealthy. "almost all not so rich " ones i know are more progressive.

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        It’s much simpler buddy. Indians back home love Modi, and they see Modi in Trump. That’s also because how during first term Modi was trying to warm upto Trump, and go as far as endorsing him, something no other Indian leader had done before. And Modi is a fascist. Hence they love Trump

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    Married to a brown woman, but the backdrop behind him is almost all white, young, able-bodied, thin women.

    Uh huh. Yeah. Tell us how much you actually love your wife, you couchfucking pressure sore of a human.

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      just like mikey “conversion therapy” johnson had a black kid he “adopted” but never shows him in public, only his white family.

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    I mean, I get it.

    It’s why you don’t buy a white couch. It shows all the stains. You want a darker colored couch to hide dirt, orange juice spills, that kind of thing.

    Only rich people have money for a white couch. Because if you spill some wine on it, and the stain won’t come out, they can afford to replace it, no questions asked.

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      I guess it depends on the stain. Maybe there’s good reason Vance needs a white couch

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    Sociopaths only ever care about themselves and for them everybody else - even their children - are only worth as much as the utility they have for the sociopath.