• raef@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    There were a lot of native French speakers in England at that time, so a bunch of normalizing like what happened a couple hundred years earlier with the Norse meeting Anglo-Saxons

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      9 hours ago

      Idk about Vikings, but to my knowledge Normans didn’t give a crap about English, speaking their language among the ruling class, and all documents were in French. This is evidenced by the fact that there’s little written record of how English developed at the time. On the other hand, French was perceived as prestigious, since people had to deal with the ruling class and bureaucracy in French, thus many ‘high-society’ words were borrowed into English — hence typically when talking about everyday matters, the words are mostly of Germanic or Norse origin, and grandiose abstract ideas or upper-class life are French/Latin.

      It’s not like trade with Normans started only after the conquest, after all.

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        8 hours ago

        Yes, and because of that there was a lot of interaction and blending, right up to the point where trials were required to be performed in English in the mid-14th century, then in the 15th everything was switched to English. The Peterborough Chronicle perfectly demonstrates the transition from Old English to Middle. It was written over about a hundred years (11th to 12th Century) and gradually starts incorporating French vocabulary and dropping old Germanic grammar.

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          3 hours ago

          Ah. I misremembered about the Peterborough Chronicle being the one switching to French because of a new French abbot.

          Still not seeing how much of it was informed by the Frenchmen wanting to learn English, though. Englishmen for sure did borrow French vocabulary, not sure about the other way around. I’m yet to learn about switching the trials to English, as I’m right at the point of Norman conquest in the ‘History of English Language’ podcast. =)
          Seems so far that said history was in large part dictated by political happenings.

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            3 hours ago

            Well, the aristocracy didn’t just learn English overnight. The transition of official use over about 200 years shows them becoming more and more accepting and comfortable with it.