If they are ready to reform or are not a threat, forgiveness can be a good option, provided that there are trials and punishments
But if not in such a scenario, it would be different.
Obviously, saving millions from being directly harmed by someone is more important.
I honestly think forgiveness should be a major column in our movement, but if someone isn’t even trying to do good…
I can forgive many things. People should be allowed to make mistakes.
I also know some people who are not stupid and yet keep doing evil things the moment they have paid back whatever the consequences were of their last bad deed. I really don’t know what to do with this kind of people.
I think a society must be built on some kind of trust, more so than laws, but it seems impossible when some people just can’t be trusted.
Seriously. People are full of that 'you can’t be heavy handed against fascists, because then you’re no better than they are! ’ bullshit.
I disagree.
it’s what someone who consumes a lot, lot of superhero media would think.
Billionaire tells you to disarm
lmao Batman is such a great example of that kind of mentality.
Batman repeatedly lets villains live and then they continue ruining and killing people all the time as result. The dude is a billionaire and he’s just LARPing being a hero who will never have to experience being poor in the most crime-ridden cities of the world.
Honestly a great liberal hero :)
Well, batman mostly fights people experiencing mental health issues. Atleast those seem to be the mainstream stories.
He probably needs to do more structural change to help there
The Joker movie was quite good. Part2 too.
Paradox of Tolerance
Totschlagargument
The trials of nũrremberg were fundamental in the reinstatement of democratic processes all over ex Nazi territories. Nazis got to go.
The nuremberg trials were a farce and the people behind it managed to create a west German government with more Nazis in power than the actual nazi governmen.
https://cpcml.ca/itn220328-tmld-art4/
Edit:
Let’s see: Nazis in Germany post-war were hired and brought directly back into:
- Official posts within the federal government and its ministerial cabinets
- into the upper judiciary and magistrates
- into local governance
- elevated and hired into immense wealth in industry and finance, or just kept where they already were in industry and finance
- hired into forming the Nazi core of the West German intelligence and secret police agencies (which would become today’s German agencies) under the protective auspices of the OSS/CIA; who made extensive use of their networks of executioners and collaborators to prop up US-backed dictatorships and cartels and use as anti-communist stay-behind guerilla terrorists by the CIA and NATO (and brought into the CIA and FBI themselves, and into MI6 and Mossad)
- into German academia and universities as faculty and professors,
- to write western history books at the behest and with support of the US Army and OSS/CIA to sanitize their own crimes
- all those hired into NATO and into the EU
- into positions of power in West Germany (and all the NATO countries, helping in and helped by Gladio violently purging the communists) in such saturation and such impunity that it caused the formation of left wing militant groups that would assassinate and kidnap them.
but other than all of that though!
(And that’s not even mentioning the Nazis and collaborators which made up the origins of Radio Free Europe/Liberty, the “Victims of Communism Foundation” which grew out of the fascist-filled anti-Soviet “Captive Nations Lobby” headed by OUN-B Nazis from Ukraine, and all the Operation Aerodynamic, Operation Paperclip, Operation Sunrise, Operation Beladonna, Operation Lynx, etc etc.)
- Here’s also a few of the industrialists and political elite of the US capitalist class who financed and were deeply connected with the Nazis and the German capitalist class
- And an additional article on nazis hired by MI6 and Mossad specifically, including the literal pioneer of the gas vans Walter Rauff [Archived]
- And historical OSS/CIA involvement in Ukrainian nationalism (broad strokes)
Underrated comments.
I thought this was about Stalinism
Stalin should not have stopped at berlin
Went quite a bit further than Berlin actually
Mr Frog at it again
Uh, hello
Any “I’ll kill this innocent if you don’t give me what I want” moral quandary as well. Your attempt to blackmail me into feeling responsible for your killing of someone is utterly absurd.
Fine
Then I’ll be bad too
No, i can be 0.0000001% as bad as you and potentially improve or not endanger the lives of millions.
you know this a false argument because there’s no trolley. lol
If he takes off his comedic top hat and puts on a military hat we should thank him for his service 🫡
Bro thinks he has the right to speak on morality
nothing that a good therapist can’t solve
