The scary part is that whomever the next Republican President is, he’ll make Trump look good in comparison.
It’s going to get worse before it gets worse.
As bad as Trump is, Dubya still murdered a million more people with the stupid lies built on greed.
I will shit on his grave.
You’re right but I would still take w back in a heartbeat just to be free from Trump constantly spewing batshit insane word salad every single day in the media headlines, and then openly calling for Iran to bomb to the largest cities in the country, and somehow no one took that as obvious treason and grounds for immediate impeachment followed by arrest followed by the guillotine.
“Treason” is a nationalist word. These men are guilty of crimes against humanity.
Fascism will always be the inevitable conclusion to all nationalism.
And you, my guy, are a nationalist. I don’t think you’re as different from all these Presidents as you’d like to believe.
It’s not a contest on how evil people are, but trump killed a shit ton of people with
- Covid
- Removing aid to countries
- Medicaid/Medicare removals and changes to laws that decides who get healthcare and who doesn’t
- Concentration camps
- Sending immigrants to countries they don’t know
- Boat attacks
- Iran school attacks
- EPA rules laxed
- etc., etc., etc.
And as bad as all of those things are, they don’t even approach the other guys.
Trump’s administration made the vaccine and rolled out assistance programs that temporarily ended childhood poverty overnight, even if he had fuck all to do with it personally.
Biden’s term was spent rolling that back and normalizing death and disease on behalf of his corporate handlers.
1.2 MILLION! China , with five times more people, had a tenth of that.
Thinking abstaining from golf is empathetic is a bigger insult than the other commenters think.
It’s not about that. It’s about how one of the most incompetent presidents we’ve ever had had some level of decency and the gravity of the situation for our country. The current loser in chief does not actually care about the troops or the country for that matter.
It’s not about that either. It’s about a million people who are no longer alive because of Dubya’s lies.
As bad as Trump is, and he could get worse, he doesn’t even come close.
Even Biden’s death toll is still higher.
They’re all war criminals of the highest degree. They don’t deserve an ounce of pity, nevermind respect.
I need you to stop using Google to answer your questions and start with a bit of critical thinking. Trumps death toll is close to 1 million if not more. Covid was 100% his fault. Every single death in Iran and Israel is his fault. I would attribute attribute a portion of deaths in Ukraine and Russia to him has well. His absolutely atrocious foreign policy caused those wars and his dismantling of the CDC and WHO caused the Covid death toll to be so high. He caused god knows how many deaths due to dismantling USAID as well. Add to that the number of Americans killed by DHS. We also need to add all the immigrants he killed in their concentration camps. That also ignores the people that weren’t killed but raped, tortured, and abused or illegally imprisoned. Bush was not a good president but his shortcomings pale in comparison to the shitshow that is going on right now.
Everything you’re saying doesn’t come close.
Also …
More people died from COVID under Biden, who did everything he could to normalize the deaths and repeal assistance.
More people died in Gaza under Biden.
I’m not defending Trump to say they both deserve the Hague gallows, but please be real. You’re living in a Blue MAGA fantasy world where everything was just peachy before the orange monster. It wasn’t.
Your name is so on the nose for trolling, it made me snort. So only the good troll factories were demolished, or are you Chinese?
Are the Chinese in the room with you right now?
Is this your go-to when someone calls you out for making shit up?
Am I lying? Look it all up.
he used to golf all the time what the fuck is this shit.
Ah, Back when war criminals cared about optics…
Trump cares about optics, that’s why all our news channels are owned by his friends.
He cares about praise, not optics. And won’t change his behavior to achieve that, just yell at people until they either do or he tucks tail and picks a new target. But of a difference.
No one should ever glorify Dubya.
I agree, this is just a comparison
If you want to compare something then compare their body counts. As bad as Trump is, and he could get worse, Dubya’s is higher, Biden’s is higher, and Obama’s is higher.
It’s more like, “even this despicable war criminal had the shame to not golf while people’s kids were dying in his war.”
fuck outta here stop retconning history
Binary thinking is bad for the world. Even people who do horrible things can do good as well. Those can be talked about, especially when his successor is so unbelievably awful; the comparison lands.
Exactly what metric are you using? Trump, as bad as he is, still has a smaller body count than Biden, Obama, or Dubya.
And exactly where is the “good”? Not golfing? That not only isn’t irrelevant, it’s not even true. He golfed plenty.
He killed hundreds of thousands of people btw
Over a million, easy. His Dad and Clinton killed 250,000 Iraqi babies through sanctions alone.
George W. Bush still tortured and sent PMCs to massacre entire villages. He is not redeemable.
Frankly we should have been pissed enough to revolt with Reagan. And then we should have been pissed when Ford pardoned Nixon.
Corruption is giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the people. Id est, treason.
Yeah, well said. George W. Bush is still a bad guy
Stop trying to rehab that shitstain.
I mean, it’s only a complement to shit stain 1 because it’s a comparison to shit stain 2.
“I stopped playing golf because my people said it was bad optics” used to be a stupid thing to admit to.
You can’t just pick any vowel.
It’s more about showing how much even more of a shitstain we have now. Even Bush was better, and he was a shitstain.
How? The gold thing isn’t even true.
He didn’t grab pussies?
Dude literally killed a million more people than Trump… so far. Knock on wood.
Geroge is still a piece of shit president. He happens to have been undershined by a even larger turd, that does not make him less of a piece of shit.
undershined
This word will now live rent free in my vocabulary.
I’m no trump fan, but I’m not gonna start glazing the American Idiot.
Oh fuck you for portraying that piece of shit as only a remotely empathic or humane being. 150’000 to 1’000’000 deaths in Iraq.
I mean are they “portraying” them that way or did they quote his words.
Id say that was Bush trying to portray himself in an empathetic way.
Dubaya was like the weird uncle at Thanksgiving that laughed at his own farts.
He was a rancid piece of shit but he was our rancid piece of shit.
Trump on the other hand doesn’t even get invited to Thanksgiving.
My weird flatulent uncle never killed a million Iraqis.
Yeah, I’d rather have the guy who has childish names for Putin, instead of the guy who talks about how good Putin’s cum tastes.
Why is everything about being gay with Putin? The biggest criticism is his homophobia. And even then, our “allies” are much worse.
It’s really hard to take you seriously. Be real. Use your words.
What is this comment? What “everything”? This is the only time Putin is even mentioned here? Also, gay people being especially homophobe is not new at all? Like what is your comment? Nonsense from top to bottom? The whole thread is also full of you saying the same thing over and over. What you say there is arguably wrong too: Willfully accepting deaths as the result of policy changes matter too.
You just like talking about eating cum?
While policy changes have most certainly caused deaths, please continue to tell me how that’s worse than carpet bombing children in a walled ghetto.
I listened as Biden REPEATEDLY told debunked blood lies from his campaign podium, about the very people he was enacting genocide against .
He saw “behead babies” with his “own eyes”? Seriously? And he said it over and over and over and over…
Which president goes with which clause?
Okay but let’s not rewrite George Double-Ya’s legacy. I’d rather have a war monger who cares about the public opinion of themselves than a war monger who doesn’t. They’re both horrible people who have the blood of hundreds of thousands of people on their hands but Trump is objectively worse.
Trump is bad. Yeah. He deserves capital punishment for his crimes against humanity.
But to bring up the death toll while saying Trump is objectively worse? Bush, Obama, and Biden all have bigger body counts as of this moment.
This is Blue MAGA shit. America was never great. They’re all war criminals.
Never thought I’d see the day when President Bush was fondly remembered.
You still haven’t and never will.
Man it’s wild that even W Bush had more decency than Trump, and he was terrible
Remember “Now watch this drive”? He gets no points for this. He had to be shamed into it.
I remember thinking that 'Murica could not sink any lower
Oh, how I laugh now…
I’m not sure I’m ready for what’s coming the next time around. Probably some manosphere influencer way into eugenics. Yay.
You mean the guy running the pentagon?
Probably not, whoever it is will make Hegseth look reasonable and professional in comparison.
I would like to see the minority of decent people get out, burn the rest, and then allow the indigenous Americans to do what they will with the place, with support from the rest of the world and safeguards to stop this shit happening again
It’s crazy that people are pushing memes like he’s the good guy.
This is juxtaposition, not apologia. There is a scale of awful, and Dubya is objectively on the lesser side relative to the Paedophile President, seditious traitor and inarticulate pissboy that he is. There is no section of the constitution that I know of which he hasn’t violated. Dubya was many of the things which the traitor-in-chief is, and that makes the juxtaposition all the more apt. If they were supposed to be comparing a good president, they’d have picked FDR. Instead, they picked one who was generally considered one of the worst until that point to show that, even when you think you’ve scraped the bottom, someone can still manage to break the bottom of the barrel and scrape the mouldering, fetid carcass of a plague rat off the floor below.
Dubya was bad, but Trump literally normalized treason.
As you said, he’s essentially betrayed the Constitution in every aspect and yet…
Hurts to say out loud, but treason has been normalized in the United States. And it was conservatives (regressives) and their love for bigotry that did it.
Only Trump was “treasonous”?
You sound like neocon and/or neoliberal.
How are they going to go lower than Trump, though? They would have to find someone who physically tortures and kills people in public. Some kind of Mad Max-like supervillain. It’s gonna be so retro!
ICE already kills people in public.
He wants to televise an execution.
Trumps successor starts nuking countries around the world. That’s probably lower.
He’s certainly not the good guy, but it was definitely a wild time when you thought he was the dumbest president we’ve ever had, with Cheney giving himself no-bid contracts to enrich himself during that war was peak corruption.
The really amazing thing about Trump is that I literally can’t find one good thing to say about him. Hitler showed personal bravery in WW1. Stalin was a bank robber. Mao led his troops into battle. No one is saying those guys were anything but monsters, but they had qualities you could respect.
Even comic book villains display some admirable qualities, even if it’s only style.
Trump embodies all Seven Deadly Sins, and has invented a few new ones.
On the contrary, draft dodging Vietnam and calling WWI vets suckers is something I respect about Trump.
Bush’s expansion of executive power made someone like trump a “when” not an “if”.
What I come back to when compairing Trump and GWB is that GWB at least seemed to respect the office, Trump shows utter contempt towards it.
Why on Earth would you have respect for the office?
Every single President in modern history has been an unaccountable and unrepentant war criminal.
Bush had a modicum of shame and respect for lawfulness. And I don’t think you could accuse him of corruption, despite his many other faults.
There just hasn’t been anyone as manifestly unsuitable for the office as Trump. It will be decades before there’s any respect given to the Presidency after this.
Do you actually remember the bush presidency? Shameless lying, illegal invasions, and corruption were his entire legacy.
He’s not. But in comparison he is.
This is what fascists do. They lower the bar so far that you have to change your whole perspective to suit them.
