• Auth@lemmy.world
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    Normally I’m here on the side of the police but in this case there is just no way. You dont get to shoot a suspect just because they’re in their car about to drive away. You need other things at play like they’re armed and an immediate threat to people before it makes sense to try and shoot someone. I dont believe for a second they were in any danger of being run over.

    This country is so culturally cooked, populism has rotted the american mind beyond repair.

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    The usa government determined that the murdered 1 year old was hitler reborn. His death was justified apparently to the judge.

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    How many diapers did that baby steal? Insurance companies say each year of human life is worth about 50,000 USD, so, cynically channeling Jonathan Swift, shooting this baby that could have lived to 60 would only be “justified” if the little one were hauling away 3,000,000 USD worth of diapers. That’s about 500 metric tons of diapers.

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    This was in response to shoplifting!? SHOPLIFTING!?

    I guess that was on me for assuming the context would make this better and not 100 times worse.

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      But, didn’t you read? The officers said that the car may have went in their general direction.

      Stolen diapers for the one year old that the police slaughtered is justified to kill a black person.

      God I fucking hate this world.

      FFVII Revelation is coming. I’m stealing the black fucking materia and calling meteor myself

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      No this was the response because she was black and shoplifting. It was 100% a race thing.

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      Objectively how can anyone say it’s justified to shoot a baby? What the fuck are we doing?

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        They aimed for the mother and hit the baby by accident. The mother was accused of stealing diapers.

        Like, this whole thing is fucked up. Nonviolent offenses do not warrant the use of lethal force.

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        Especially when his mother’s only crime was being poor and desperate? The real criminals here are wearing suits, not stealing diapers for their sons.

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    Why do they even send cops to a shoplifting scene? Let the store deal with it. They have cameras, security guards, insurance.

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      That’s what I don’t get. Everything in the fucking store is insured! A $20 pack of diapers is insured! The store will get that back, take it up as a loss.

      Sure you don’t want to encourage theft, but shit happens. Oops someone accidentally walked out with one item. Sure send someone out to inform the customer, maybe they legit missed it. If you can’t locate the customer or they already started to drive away, welp put that under accidental loss. It’s not that different from someone accidentally dropping a jar of pickles off the shelf. The store isn’t going to call the cops because of an accidental jar drop.

      But we all know it wasn’t the accidental shoplifting, it’s because she was black. That’s the ONLY reason why the cops were called. Because of the color of her skin. And then the trigger happy racist as fuck cop saw that and shot first and never asked questions. It’s past time there were serious fucking consequences for these fucking piece of shit pigs (cops).

      I’d fucking boycott that fucking store and the owner. Force corporate to act over this shit.

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    America is crazy. A women does shoplifting and officers shoot at her? I don’t know if you guys know how insane your country is.

    Dont you have some law that officers only can use deadly force when their life or someone else’s life is in danger?

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      Not just shoplifting but literally stole a pack of diapers. People don’t steal diapers for fun, that’s obviously someone who was out of options, and took the only option left to her

      Edit to add: apparently she didn’t even steal the diapers! Some customer said they thought she did and she didn’t have the receipt (because who grabs the receipt when they go and buy a single consumable item?)

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        Shops are also insured so it doesn’t even affect the owner. Some super rich insurance company gets to pay for a new pack of diapers.

        Compare this with what’s going on in France, where thousands of immigrants are rioting and burning down stores and cars. Millions of dollars in damage. The police there still just use tear gas and rubber bullets and haven’t killed anyone.

        America is in its own league of police brutality.

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            I dont watch TV news at all, but ive watched YouTube videos from the riots filmed by ordinary people. That’s probably as close to the truth you can get without being there.

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              As some late night host said (Stewart?): do you think immigrants are the ones who are rioting IN FRANCE?

              Let me give you a hint: one of the places they rioted was the Bastille square.

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                Videos show black men with red, white, green flags so yes, it’s not the native French. :)

                Of course it’s immigrants.

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      Nope. Most state laws shield cops from trouble as long as they were trying to be a cop and openly doing cop stuff. There would be a review, but the review is just to establish the cop was doing cop stuff. Even not following “procedure” isn’t enough to remove the veil of legitimacy.

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      She was also driving in the direction of the police officers. What else were they supposed to do? Stand out of they way? Not shoot a one year old child?

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        We haven’t seen the body warn yet, but the issue is why is shooting at her automatically justified in this context? Driving at officers or not. Why did officers put themselves in the position to be driven at, why not just tail her and pull her over, why not get her registration and go to her address. There are far more alternative options than (as seems to the standard) going for maximum force first.

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          why is shooting at her automatically justified

          The cop saw her holding up a baby. He was shooting at the baby.

          Presumably this was justifiable self defense because the baby was the reason the mother needed diapers and if she hadn’t needed diapers the cop would not be fearing for his life at that moment

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              We are being very sarcastic, the disassociation helps me process a tragedy like this. There is absolutely no context that would make this justifiable, the fact that a judge still deemed it so shakes me to my core.

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          Tailing people ends up in high showed chases and kills others, not really an option.

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      Surely you are not only thinking now, that America is crazy, right? I mean, they legit elected a fucking child rapist to be their president. Only in America™, ladies and gentlemen.

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      Freedom to the fullest, especially to exploit.

      In the Land of The Free, you are obligated to kneel before your betters.

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      A women does shoplifting and officers shoot at her?

      Cops love to shoot people. You barely need to give them justification.

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      Dont you have some law that officers only can use deadly force when their life or someone else’s life is in danger?

      Qualified Immunity

      Im sure a bootlicker like you will absolutely adore the concept.if only the police in France could just murder who they want… right? Then the cost of living crisis will be resolved and the schools will be fully funded.

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      I blame the liberal gun laws. Because everyone potentially could be armed police officers constantly feel life threatened.

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        That’s no excuse.

        Soldiers being sent into literal combat against enemy troops have rules of engagement that don’t allow them to fire unless fired upon. Why do police dealing with civilians have less-strict rules of engagement?

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          Not to mention other countries also having crime, and criminals with guns. They don’t use their weapons against people who are not a danger to anyone.

          The mentality in America is difficult to understand from the outside. It’s very evil.

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            It’s difficult from the inside too.

            The problem is people here are used to it being “the way things are” so they don’t go through the mental exercise of trying to understand it. It’s seen as perfectly normal, so it’s never questioned.

            In the US the sky is blue, water is wet, and police are assumed to have been justified any time they kill someone.