Shop freezers in seven European countries hit by cyber-attack
www.bbc.com
The temperature of freezers in several shops across Europe reportedly rose to as high as 50C.
  • MehBlah@lemmy.world
    15·
    5 days ago

    Stop relying on remotely controlled freezer. If it doesn’t have a separate alarm and a locally controlled override then its shouldn’t be allowed to be sold.

    • IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com
      68·
      5 days ago

      But if they do that how are the going to convince people to allow constant modern surveillance of their digital lives? Remember it’s a business, it’s not for humanity.

      It’s not for us.

      This isn’t really living, it’s existing like cattle. Our grass is Netflix, shitty entertainment and marketed lifestyles that allow cultures and subculture to be monetized and mass manipulated.

    • OwOarchist@pawb.socialBanned
      7·
      5 days ago

      It might be nice to have an internet connection to monitor the freezer. Check temps, keep a temperature log so you can tell if it ever thawed out due to a temporary power outage or something. Remote alarm if temps go outside of food safe range.

      But I see absolutely no reason why a freezer’s control circuitry needs to be connected to the internet. There’s no reason you’d ever need to turn it on or off remotely … or even really change the temperature remotely. Any time you need to turn it on or off or change the temperature, it’s because you’re taking food in or out of it … which has to be done manually, with physical access to the machine, so you might as well adjust the temperature manually while doing that.

      • Che Banana@beehaw.org
        1·
        5 days ago

        In restaurants there needs to be a thermometer installed and a routine check of temp. recorded manually…if anything that would be a redundancy that corporate wants to have to keep the middle managers busy

    • marighost@piefed.socialEnglish
      3·
      5 days ago

      I read somewhere that mentioned the freezer temperatures are controlled from the head office, via the network. If that’s true, that’s why VPN tunnels with access control are so important!!!

    • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
      53·
      5 days ago

      Right?

      Think maybe THIS will get all these places (any that have been hacked) to start taking isolation and security seriously?

      • Che Banana@beehaw.org
        2·
        5 days ago

        I mean, the reports of people hacking into home temperature control units, fish tanks, etc. years ago apparently wasn’t enough warning.

      • daveyOsborn@infosec.pubOP
        1·
        5 days ago

        I suppose they would file an insurance claim and not give a fuck. It’s no money out of the pocket of the bean counter who decides infosec costs more than it saves. OTOH, hopefully insurance companies would react by charging a higher premium to grocers who have cloud-controllable refrigeration and no proper infosec. And then maybe /that/ would turn this around.

  • shalafi@lemmy.world
    6·
    5 days ago

    As I understand it, they had critical infrastructure, open to world+dog, all locked behind… (checks notes)… a username and password.

    Lemmy: Why was this shit on the internet?!

    Me: Why didn’t they simply lock it down after the first hack?!

    I get corporate IT, been there, done that. But they could have locked access to a single IP or group of IPs. MFA anyone? How about a VPN between the freezers and home base or no access? These are easy and nearly free fixes given some IT labor.

  • notsure@fedia.io
    3·
    5 days ago

    I bought a refrigerator that talks to the internet, why doesn’t it always work? My mother tells me of ice-boxes which would have a large block of ice, placed on it, once a week. By a human deliverer. Fuck.