DBZer0 represent
Awww yeah
“Await”? We’re deep into it.
Don’t forget Blahaj.Zone as they’re awesome too! Here’s to having 10k folks🍻
Lmao what. Blahaj is just as bad as hexbear.
Locking while we sift through all the reports.
Poor LW
ngl, I consider .world to be on a similar level of obnoxiousness to .ml
Still federated with Threads
Ah right, I forgot that.
…honestly, i even forgot about Thread.
Is this an issue? I have never seen a post or user from threads. Is it even compatible with Lemmy?
If it’s not w then why stay federated?
In the sense that mastodon is, yes.
Jesus fucking christ dude, the insane obsession you guys over at lemmy.world have with tankies is unreal. Maybe go outside and touch some grass.
It’s always the same two instances complaining about the rest of the Fediverse not bending over to bootlick the US overworlds, and accusing the rest of somehow simping for other regimes just on the basis of opposing that. It is seriously getting tedious and insufferable.
On top of that, including lemmy.ml in there is just disingenuous. Grad and hexbear sure, they are spaces openly and deliberately created to discuss leftist politics. But there is literally nothing making lemmy.ml any less generalist than any instance, maybe other than a certain instance that is happy to ban and defederate anyone who dares question the US hegemony. You cannot bind lemmy.ml to “tankism” on any basis other than the Lemmy devs being socialist themselves despite letting anyone of any political creed use their software, unless you are dumb enough to take decontextualized meanwhileongrad-level bullshit seriously.
I moved over from .world to .ml to flee away from this American exceptionalism brainroot and, guess what? It didn’t work. I keep seeing the same constant complaints about this fictional group of Lemmy users that really like Putin and Xi or something and weaponizing those complaints to support and enact hostile actions against people and instances discussing anti-capitalist, anti-establishment policy. The only thing that changed is that now, besides that, I can also see leftists users engage in posts from my own account. So, funnily enough, the echo chamber effect became weaker after I moved to .ml.
It was a rather funny timing that this whole discussion about lemmy.ml being a hardcore tankie instance that should be widely defederated etc came to be about at the time that lemmy.world defederated lemmygrad and consequently ran out of red-flavored scapegoats to claim that they are being oppressed by some nebulous left-wing echo chamber.
Nah man, my initial onboarding experience was seriously influenced by interacting with .ml. you can pretend the experience of thousands of users doesn’t matter, but .ml is legitimately worse than reddit in basically every way. It’s good that influence is being diluted.
Except I have clear evidence documented of .ml’s tankieness with full context included.
Tankies are not socialists, they deny all the wrong doings of authoritarian regimes, they even deny that NK isn’t actually a dictatorship LMAO
.ml removes comments and posts for nothing else other than being against Russia/China/NK. How is that ok your book? I myself would love to see the fall of capitalism, but like I said before, not to just replace it with authoritarianism.
Edit: LMAO .ml unbanned and rebanned me just so that they could brigade my post lololol
Not willing to start an argument, since this whole topic about “tankies” on Lemmy is exactly as toxic, disingenuous and unproductive as it was back on Reddit, so I might not reply further than this.
But elsewhere in this thread I have seen you post “evidence” that was actually just some ridiculous meanwhileongrad thread. If we are going by those standards then I might as well pull out all the exaggerated out of context circlejerking about liberals that is common on Hexbear. If we are to drop our collective IQ to zero, we may well be playing this game in both directions. But oh wait, turns out it’s only bad when Hexbear does it to own the libs, but it’s fully solid compelling evidence when another certain instance does it about “tankies”.
The claim that .ml is censoring comments “for nothing else other than being against Russia/China/NK”, at the very least, does not match my experience of browsing .ml at all. But if you do have evidence as you say, I invite you to actually post it and let people discuss. It shouldn’t be hard; the modlog is public.
That said, I’m personally not interested in starting the 95474214th Lemmy argument about tankies this week on this website so don’t expect me to reply.
Another guy crying about free speech of .ml while writing on the unfederated protocol created by .ml. You guys are such a joke please go find something to do in real life rather than inventing yourself an alternate oppressed life.
Free speech, right, free speech like this: https://lemmy.world/post/26416571
Just block them if you can’t stand them but your constant crying wimping annoy me. You really have nothing going on in your life to spent some time on this right ?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ we all have our hobbies, why don’t you just block me then
You should look at OP’s post history. They’re probably responsible for most of those posts. They’re a serious problem poster. Definitely a pro-war, pro-NATO astroturfer. Hardcore anti-leftist psycho.
Go ahead, my post history is an open book lmao
idk they just seem like a bog standard Anglosphere liberal who has made “being online” their entire identity. The more time they waste posting, the less active they’ll be in the real world, so just let them rot their brains away in peace tbh.
cmon we just want capitalism to die already 🥺
No, a lot of users, especially on Lemmygrad, support Russia and their invasion, for example. Hexbear supports China’s dictator. Most .ml I’ve interacted with are also on Russia’s side.
Don’t act like the only thing is anti-capitalism. That’d be fine. It’s everywhere on the fediverse. No, those instances stand apart for a reason, and you know that.
china is not a dictatorship. russia is better than the US.
china is not a dictatorship.
Dictator: one holding complete autocratic control.
Yeah, I think it is.
russia is better than the US.
Well, at least you’re admitting what I said is true. I could argue with you, but it doesn’t matter. The fact isn’t even if it’s better than the US. I never made a statement on that. Your people are apologists for Russia and defend it’s invasion of a sovereign nation. Can you agree with me that’s bad? No whataboutisms or anything. Just admit it is bad.
russia is better than the US
Sorry, that’s just objectively wrong. Both are bad, but Russia is nowhere close to the us.
wtf are you talking about. does russia get anywhere CLOSE to this?
please scroll though that list and let it sink in on the absolutely cruel evil shit the US has been doing for the last century or so.
Trust me, I’ve been following this stuff as well. I am no fan of america, but saying its better than russia is just objectively bad.
and i’m literally on the receiving end of US and european imperialism. the US sponsored a brutal military dictatorship in my country and on most of our neighbours, and still sponsors the plundering of our natural resources and workforce. shit, they tried to put a dictator in power in here recently, we barely escaped.
modern-day russia doesn’t have as much influence throughout the world, nor does it have as bloody military by a big margin.
Having anti capitalistic views in the fediverse is so important in times like this. Excluding the putin shills ofc.
Opposing western wars is not being “pro Putin.”
What’d they do this time?
That’s it? Asking for trade embargos to be lifted? Are you serious?
Lol no, tl;dr VodkaSolutions had commented “If, he [Trump] most likely goes down as the dumbest president of all the countries ever, even over the north Korean dictators” and that was removed by the .ml Tankie mods because he dared imply that NK was run by a dictator.
But straight NK propaganda is allowed to proliferate.
Clear evidence of enforcing pro-Russia/China/NK authoritarian mindset via mod/admin action aka Tankie
And that’s just the latest, which happened just yesterday, there’s much more at !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
Could you describe to me, in your own words, how the North Korean government functions and what elements make it a dictatorship? Because 99.99% of people who spout this nonsense don’t know shit about fuck and uncritically believe every single lie about that country that they hear from any given Western propaganda outlet.
tankie
Meh, what’s the big deal? Isn’t it good there’s an anti-US presence here? I like the intellectual diversity they bring, even if they’re often insufferable jerks about it.
It’s not so much the anti-US part, because honestly fuck the US gov and the shit they do lol, but more of the “China/Russia/NK can do NO WRONG/aren’t actually authoritarian governments simply because they oppose the US” parts
There was nothing wrong with the comment that got removed, and they do that all the time.
they just look that good because the point of comparison is the us empire.
red scare propaganda really seem to have a grip on westerners.
Support the wrong dictatorship. You’re only supposed to support the American one.
In thoery we shouldn’t support any dictatorships at all. But the average tankie poster will bend over backwards to fellate a dictator if they oppose the US.
It would be great if we could only support countries that were 100% good all the time, but tankies support countries that oppose the US even if they’re far from good because they recognize that no socialist revolution of any kind is possible until US hegemony is broken.
said every #2 hegemon in the history of ever
Plenty of the countries they support certainly claim to be socialist, but end up just being authoritarian dictatorships with a different name
didn’t the triad literally create the Fediverse? I don’t like them either but that deserves a little respect
They didn’t create the fediverse. The owners of .ml are the devs of lemmy, a fediverse software.
And the nazis created Fanta. Do they deserve a little respect for that? 🌭
no, fanta sucks
Fair.
Tbf the admins of lemmy.ml are the ones who actually develop the service. They deserve our thanks also.
I can thank them for their development efforts, but not on how they run their instance.
‘I would like to enjoy the benefits of collective efforts without supporting the political ideology that makes it possible in the first place.’
That “ideology” is authoritarianism
- Understanding Siege Socialism - Gabriel Rockhill joins to talk about a controversial concept for Western socialists: “siege socialism”. A term coined by the great Michael Parenti.
- Third World Socialism in an Imperialist World - Rebuttal to Worthless First World Lib ‘Lefties’ - Liberal imperialists first worlders who vote for Joe Biden while calling themselves ‘socialists’ love to attack every remotely successful left-of-liberal revolution in the third world - here’s why they’re wrong (they’re also racist)
- Western Marxism & Imperialism, with John Bellamy Foster & Gabriel Rockhill - Please join us for a webinar to discuss the dialogue between John Bellamy Foster and Gabriel Rockhill on “Western Marxism and Imperialism,” published in the March issue of Monthly Review: https://monthlyreview.org/2025/03/01/western-marxism-and-imperialism-a-dialogue/
Spamming links with quotes that are unrelated?
The point was that the tankie triad are authoritarian, that’s just a fact
“authoritarian” is a buzz word that left-liberals like yourself use to attack any country that has successful left-economic programs. Whether you realize it or not, you have been trained to deploy this label in defense of US empire.
“authoritarian” is a buzz word that left-liberals like yourself use to attack any country that has successful left-economic programs.
Not how I’m using it here, which is a direct comment on how a Lemmy instance is run. If you want to pretend the tankie triad aren’t authoritarian then you’re too stupid to discuss anything with, honestly
Whether you realize it or not, you have been trained to deploy this label in defense of US empire.
No, I haven’t, I’m one of the filthy socialists who argue in favor of many of the ideas of those regimes. You just see someone pointing out the bad of the tankie triad and make assumptions that I’m not firmly on the left and just disgusted by how high they are on the compass compared to me
Tankie triad represent
The other 2 are explicitly communist but I’d never assume a lemmy.ml user is a tankie.
People who chose the thing run by the people who make the thing gang rise up
This post is complaining about disinformation being censored, which is good. Every website should censor disinformation regardless of source.
Is the disinformation that China does acknowledge the massacre?
The first removed comment shown in the post is someone falsely claiming that China has “constant efforts to pretend it didn’t happen”
The linked imgur album is also full of outright disinformation about the incident.
falsely claiming that China has “constant efforts to pretend it didn’t happen”
art thou trollingeth, knave?
No, they’re a tankie who wants to pretend they’re not
So just openly anti-leftist and trying to promote Lemmy as another pro-fascism and pro-corporate and pro-war social platform. Real big brain move, doofus.
New Lemmy users, be aware: a lot of the Reddit astroturfers duplicate their efforts here. Lemmy.ml is a leftist and anti-war instance, so it gets a lot of pushback from the astroturfers. Be immediately suspicious of anyone talking shit of Lemmy.ml. It’s mostly bad actors and pro-war people.
Also, Lemmy.world is chock full of the same abusive and sketchy power mods from Reddit.
my fucking sides
new users, either believe we’re alt right astroturfers, or go to the tankie servers, familiarize yourself with their ideas, make your own opinion
I agree. They should look at Lemmy.ml to see what y’all are opposing.
Thank you for your accidental recruitment efforts.
I’m glad we can agree on this.
I was on .ml about 2 years before .world existed and discovered tankies and their ideas
russia amassing troops on the ukrainian border? just exercises, don’t believe western propaganda.
Days later, invasion. well no it’s actually ukraine invading russia (I shit you not)
oh well ok it’s a “military operation”, but that’s because they’re nazis, and bio weapon laboratories to attack russia. Etc,etcIf you have 2 braincells compare tankie and far right talking points, and underline the similarities
NATO was amassing troops & missile deployments on the border with Ukraine for years. Since Obama.
Almost like Ukraine has been invaded by them before, perhaps during said presidents second term?
Touch grass nerd
Aw, I like talking to you libs. ✌️
