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All the stores started putting little Canada flag stickers by the price tags for made in Canada stuff. Unfortunately it does not differentiate by Canadian companies owned by American companies (like Tim Horton’s).
Coca Cola is marked as European here, because it’s bottled and distributed by a local company.
People even argue it should not be Boycotted for that reason. Because it would harm local jobs too.
But I disagree completely, because it remains an American brand with American profits. If we use a local brand instead, all the jobs and profits are local.Petsmart is doing this too.
Pedigree dog treats, owned by Mars Canada - Maple Leaf.
That doesn’t count, yo.
It’s actually more important that the product be made in Canada, rather than who owns the company, since it would employ more Canadians and return more money into our economy.
I’m not sure where Pedigree makes their treats, but if it’s in Canada, it gets a Maple Leaf.
But ideally, you do want a Canadian-owned company making goods in Canada using Canadian ingredients and hiring Canadian workers.
Yes and no.
From a tariff perspective, that’s true.
From a “where does the money go” perspective, that is not true.
So: yeah, it’s better than buying a straight up American import, but buying a product fully independent of any US process, service, component, transit, assembly, etc is better.
From a “where does the money go” perspective, that is not true.
When I was researching this, basically the conclusion is that if a product is made in Canada (even if the company is American), you are supporting the workers, but then the workers are likely spending their money within the country, too. This is amplified if the ingredients/materials of that product are also from Canada.
Yes, supporting an American company is still bad, for sure. I don’t disagree.
But if the choice, for example, is to buy from a Canadian company that’s importing from the States (many examples I’ve found just at the grocery store), or an American brand that makes their products in Canada using Canadian ingredients, go with the latter!
Fortunately, we aren’t always forced to make that decision, and can go with NotAmerican products and brands for a large number of items. That’s why Buy European is something I also follow (as a Canadian).
a Canadian company that’s importing from the States
That would make it an American imported product.
(many examples I’ve found just at the grocery store),
Such as?
Obviously the argument was never to buy something made in USA disregarding who owns the company, over something made in Canada. You are arguing against a strawman you made yourself.
Such as?
A few examples:
Dianty is a Canadian company, but their brown rice comes from the States.
Nature’s Path is a Canadian cereal company, but they make everything in the States.
You can find alternatives that are not by Canadian companies, but are Made in Canada, and those options are better than the above. To Dainty’s credit, though, they only import the rice, but clean/finish/package it in Canada, so they aren’t terrible.
Still, I avoid their brown rice because the main ingredient is American.
Obviously the argument was never to buy something made in USA disregarding who owns the company, over something made in Canada.
I don’t think I was trying to make that argument, at least, I hope it didn’t come across that way.
It’s best to avoid anything made in the States or ingredients from the states. The local of a company’s head office is less relevant if they are employing Canadian workers to make the products.
Hell, I follow (and support) the “buy euro” (or Canadian, or whatever else besides the US) movement, and I’m American.
and I’m American.
You’re not American, you’re a hero. 😀
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No, you aren’t.
For example:
You have a local brand that imports all their goods. How many employees do you think they have? It would all be just sales, admin, and warehouse.
Now say that you have a company manufacturing in your country using ingredients from your country:
You’ve got dozens of farmers, and everyone connected to them. Dozens or hundreds of factory workers, and everyone connected to them. Your “Canadian office” will still employ Canadians for admin, sales, warehouse, etc.
How would that not be better?
To reiterate: Buying from a locally-owned brand who also manufacturers locally is the best. But when given a choice between a company that makes goods in your country, and one that only sells imported goods from your country, the former is going to be more beneficial to the economy.
https://bcbuylocal.com/why-local/
Locally owned and operated businesses, even if they have some US integration/imports, still have significantly better return to the local and domestic economy, that one shouldn’t discourage it if they can’t go all the way from the start.
So you are arguing that Canadian companies produce in USA to export to Canada a lot??
What?
I’m saying that “Canadian companies” who manufacturer elsewhere, are worse than “foreign companies” who manufacturer within Canada using Canadian ingredients.
My metric, of course, if purely from an economical perspective. There are other factors to consider, too.
PetSmart itself is American owned. We switched our auto delivery (and brands) of pet food away from them.
Good point, though Tim Horton’s is owned by Restaurant Brands Intetnational, with headquarters in Toronto and Florida. RBI is in turn owned by shareholders, the largest of which is 3G capital, a Brazilian-American firm… so it’s complicated. Much American involvement, though!
Personally I don’t pay attention to the labels on the shelf. I look up the product origin myself and keep a list of all the non US items. I do try to buy Canadian first but I’ll take European, Australian, Japanese, or other origin products. No Loblaws. Ever. I refuse to buy products from some countries due to current matters occuring elsewhere on the planet …
Places that do this kind of marketing and make it clear they don’t use US items to provide services to you are normally impossible to get an appointment because they’re so damn busy. It’s awesome how quickly we Canadians have come together and are fighting back anyway we can.
Why not make it a bit more aggressive? Put crossed-out Russian, Chinese and US flags there, and write “No parts from fascist shitholes used” next to them
They probably do use Chinese made parts though.
They should quit their BS marketing then. I fully understand not wanting to buy stuff from the US, a fascist shithole. But buying stuff from China, a (at least currently) much worse fascist shithole (not sure how much worse the US will get) is not a solution. What we need are European/Canadian alternatives. Isn’t that (at least the former subject) the whole point of this community?
China is not worse than america, and hasnt been for a while now. There is very good propaganda to make you think so though.
They literally have a dictator. Before this election they were 100% worse than US. Now they’re only like 50% worse.
A one-party system is not worse than America? What world are you living in?
As a Canadian, I trust China more than murica. I may not trust China 100%, and I certainly disagree with China’s Taiwan ambitions, but with murica, i have ZERO trust. Conclusion: murica needs to be isolated and destroyed.
For Canada at least only 2 of those 3 are threatening our sovereignty
Australia 1up-ed that a while back with % of made-in-au kangaroo stickers.
Yep. Was going to mention that
And they say what percentage in Australia in a lot of cases
A year ago, I thought it was stupid. But with trump in charge, Im even switching to Linux now, and dumping Apple music for Spotify again
Spotify itself is worse than apple music IMO. They sponsor shit like Joe Rogan and had to be called out by their own employees before they would remove a podcast on how to traffic women by the Tate brothers
Yeah. That’s why I left it first, but Apple music has Rogan apparently now too. But yeah, is all fucked
Also, Spotify only has lossy audio
Man, they really 1-upped that if there’s a kangaroo on it! Can’t go wrong with those!
This shoul’ve been a thing a long time ago. Not just american, but you should always be able to see where something is coming from at first glance
…made in China stickers are everywhere here in the states.
Well… enjoy the tariffs!
I also tire when rimming.
Heh
I wish we could have the kind of unity Canada does where they recognize stupidity, call it out, and NOT side with fascists
Honey attracts more bees.
Instead of saying “not American” “not Chinese”, having a positive message like “EU product” or “Made in the EU” would fair better.
Of course the current levels animosity between Canada and the US is more severe than between the US and the EU at the moment. So this antagonistic kind of advertising might work better over there.
Buy Canadian isn’t always an option. But buying non-American almost always is. And since a huge part of the protest at this time is about putting the US in the penalty box, it’s an acceptable tradeoff.
The world is pretty thirsty for vinegar when it comes to the US these days.
