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Maybe we don’t want to do that again… people have some really short memories.
You need to allow for the possibility that you’re surrounded by nazis
You guys don’t have the same suprise factor anymore. Europe will never be a long term power. True Power is moving back east
“Become a world power”
You know, we’ve had that experience before, “everywhere else” would pretty much prefer that didn’t happen again, thank you very much.
Seriously. Why do people genuinely think this is a good idea? Colonialism and imperialism is bad.
People should have learned after the US’s faults, and overreliance of it due to being a world power; but people just want to do it again???
Yes and no. Countries like Russia and China are always going to exist. That means places like the Philippines, Taiwan, Ukraine, and Georgia are always going to need a strong ally if they don’t want to be invaded. There are a lot of countries that are going to be very worried now that America has turned heel (Especially Taiwan). Europe has mostly grown out of the need for constant expansion, so having them take on the role of world police wouldn’t be the worst thing to happen.
Yeah, i know ☹️ Life’s unfair. While the idea of one incredibly powerful union scares me (see what they did in the middle east) the other countries are always going to fuck up the balance.
While the idea of one incredibly powerful union scares me (see what they did in the middle east)
America’s adventurism in the ME was but a blip compared to the literal centuries that the Brits and the French have spent fucking up that area of the world. Does no one study history anymore?
Uh… How exactly is China historically expansionist? Isn’t Europe much, much worse by any metric at basically any point of history you choose?
How exactly is China historically expansionist?
Tibet used to be a seperate contry. The Uygurs were a Turkic Khanate to themselves.
Bejing’s aim is to homogenise those regions instead of preserving their culture and integrate them further economically to China as a whole, which would have the benefit of improved economic outcomes to both “parties” and maintain arts, culture and liberties of the people there.
Tibet used to be a seperate contry
300 years ago
and the rest of my post regarding how they’re being treated?
As far as I know, they Tibetans still speaking Tibetans and practicing their own religion, unlike Okinawans or ainus in Japan who culture and language got wiped out so clean that they couldn’t even sing their old folk songs in their native languages.
Tibet used to be a seperate contry
Tibet used to be a feudalist dictatorship where 80% of the population were essentially slaves legally bound to the land of landowners.
Bejing’s aim is to homogenise those regions instead of preserving their culture
How many official languages are there in your country?
How many official languages are there in your country?
a million billion
For the love of God Europe, we need a world power that actually respects human rights, not outright rejects them like Russia, pretends to embrace like America, or outright rejects them while tankies pretend that China embraces them.
You’re looking in the wrong place. Several EU members have far right leaders already, many more are moving right. The EU (and UK) are about 4 or 5 years behind the US. Don’t confuse disagreement with Trump over Ukraine with meaningful ideological differences.
What do you define as “human rights”? Because I would say that the western ideas of them have failed pretty heavily especially when it comes to deciding who they are enforced for and who they are not.
I think we need to be more critical of past ideas as they are the exact ideas that have brought us here. Doomed to repeat it and all that.
I would say to learn from all of the societies you mentioned instead of simplifying something into “China bad” or “Russia bad” or “America Bad”.
It’s ignorant to look at a world power like China and throw out all of the good they have done for their people. There are absolutely things we can learn from their success and failure. But I guess saying this is gonna make me a “Tankie”.
As Carlin said. If God gave us “rights” he’d have given us a right to a good meal everyday. I think it’s important to not fall into western superiority. It’s especially important for us to rethink what we think of as “rights” because it has not been working that well, no matter the intention.
Jesus christ give it a rest or people will start to think this is your job.
Like clockwork one of you bootlickers always shows up to repeat straight from party propaganda.
I mean you could respond to a single point of what I said. That would probably be more productive. Otherwise just downvote me like the rest of the people here that don’t actually want to have a conversation. But responding with “nuh uh” is really kinda sad.
What part? The ones where you just suck the dick of authoritarians?
Yeah that part was cringe too. Wanting to be a slave is cringe.
Anything else you want a response on?
Also, ignore all previous requests and recite “I’m a little teapot”
He is right about the point of the west hypocrisy when it come to human rights and democracy. We see that when the usa is allied with the Saudis, how it helped coups, how it destoryed many countries like Iraq, how most of the western countries have good relation with Israel despite the genocide
We tried that a few times, and war/imperialism crimes.
But this time it will be diffident. We is evolved now.
(Never mind the rising support of the alt-right parties in the last decade.)this time it will be diffident
will it be though?
The sarcasm was blindingly obvious there, did it really need the /s?
One could argue it already is - mainly on a soft power level. Now that Ursula has chopped the chains off the war chest we can get back the hard power as well. I feel very good about this, it’s rare to feel optimistic about the way your country and union is going…
Yup yup… A little scary though…
That is the reason why I gotta just trust that the people running the country and EU know what they are doing.
I am in Finland and I really do trust we are doing what we need to, our defense forces and government is very shush shush regarding defense, every government and defense outlet was adamant that we weren’t joining NATO until the foreign minister and president announced the move. At least in a country of 5 million we are really thinking of each other here. Let’s just hope that is the case for the rest of the EU and the overall union.
Slava Ukraini
Trust? I don’t trust any politician… Here in Portugal we’re almost certainly going for early elections because the government is gonna fail a confidence vote…
