• Monstrosity@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I am not a vegan but oat milk lattes are the best lattes. They are creamy, rich with flavor that’s perfectly aligned w the coffee, lower in calories & more sustainable than classic dairy.

    Everyone should try them once at least.

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        1 year ago

        Too many people tried soy milk or almond milk and it has unfortunately turned them away from dairy alternatives. Oatmilk leagues above all the rest.

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      1 year ago

      Have you looked at the ingredients of oat milk?

      It’s water with vegetable oil and just enough oats for the taste.

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          1 year ago

          My point is, that oat milk lattes are not the “best” lattes, they’re oily not creamy, and that the flavor of oats does not align with coffee.

          I’m diabetic and have to avoid lactose too, amongst many other things.

          Oat milk might be a fine beverage, if you’re into oily watery horse food, but a substitute for proper milk it is not.

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              1 year ago

              Not really. It’s a mammalian excretion that has literally been refined over millions of years to deliver an infants nutritional requirements.

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                I drink milk, but milk isn’t superior to oat milk.

                mammal milk has specific ingredients that are meant to specifically feed infants of that animal. So its often high in fat and has specific things that are meant to be digested by that animal. Breast milk from a human has special ingredients that help digest the high lactose content and those ingredients are not in other milks.

                Now Oats have been designed over years to be digested by humans and other animals. They propagate by being consumed and then travel to other areas post consumption. The nutrition in oats and other vegetables is mostly there specifically to drive animals like us to eat them so that we propagate them.

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                  1 year ago

                  Of course proper milk is superior to oat milk.

                  If you were stuck on a desert island and could have an infinite supply of either it would be an absurdity to choose the oat milk over cows milk.

                  It’s true that cows milk is intended for calves and it’s probably not advisable for an adult human to consume exclusively cows milk, but it’s an absurdity to claim that cows milk is less nutritionally valuable than oat milk.

                  Oats have been domesticated by humans over a few short millennia because of their ease of cultivation and longevity in storage. Lets not conflate convenience with nutritional quality. Besides which oat milk doesn’t contain much in the way of oats anyway.

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    1 year ago

    I’m a french vegetarian living in France after living 6 years in Scotland, France is years behind on the diet inclusion issue, I was shocked how difficult it was to find a place to eat out in Paris, way too many cafe/restaurant/etc… gets defensive and refuse to serve you if you don’t have the “historical diet” (whatever that means) of france, and a lot of them don’t offer any “common alternative diet” options on the menu. And it’s not better outside of Paris.

    Then of course there are some great places that try to include everyone regardless of their diet, and they are increasing in numbers, but they are still the exception rather than the norm which is a shame.

    If you ever goes in Paris and looking for a fully vegetarian classy restaurant, I recommand “Polichinelle”, it’s a bit on the expensive side (~50 euro/person), but it’s high level cuisine, and for a special occasion it’s really worth it.

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    1 year ago

    We wanted to order pizza and I told my girlfriend (who is Italian) that I might order Pizza Hawaii. Her reflexes kicked in and she bit me.

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    1 year ago

    as they should. i dont like american culture, where some people seem to think it is ok to take an item of the menu and alter pretty much everything about it.

    btw: if you want to be treated like a king in france… look up history

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        Do they even have it in the shop? Should a cafetier store every type of plant base milk in their pantry just in case someone ask for an off-menu variation? It is not either the job of the waiter to run at the shop to find oat milk.

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          in case someone ask for an off-menu variation?

          Stuff like a plant-based alternative shouldn’t even be “off-menu”. The problem already starts here.

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            Coffee is plant-based. It is not that weird that a plant-based version of the un-veganised version of a plant-based beveurage is off-menu.