Idk if its prejudice, I just find them boring. Been playing turn based games since the 90s, the idea of having to go through menus to resolve conflict is a thing of the past to me.
That *is interesting. I love the nostalgia and I’m honestly burned out on action rpgs and open worlds.
There is stuff I’d play for nostalgia reasons, but I wouldn’t pick up a new title because it feels like such a slog. But also these types of games rely heavily on dialogue, and I don’t want to spend hours reading a game, I want to play a game.
I feel the same about 2D sidescrollers. They can’t really excite me anymore, because I’ve been playing them for 30 years.
This is a me problem though. I’m not saying they are bad games. Just not for me and that’s fine.
I like that turn based I can play for a second or for hours or anything in between especially with my steam deck where I can sleep it real easy and its easy to pick up and put down.
I’m currently playing Divinity original sin 2, I love turn based combat
RTA games deffo have an easier time of it but lets not act like turn based is dead. Deltarune, BG3, Octopath, P5R, Dragon Quest 2/3, Yakuza Infinite Wealth, Metaphor, (and loads more) are all recent and did numbers.
Today I’ve learned that preference is prejudice 🤷♂️
I don’t think prejudice is the wrong word - the top comment of this comment section is literally someone saying they won’t try any new turn based games due to a dislike of menu based combat. If you aren’t even going to try new things, that qualifies as prejudice.
Who’s to say they haven’t tried plenty and now know this is not for them? Prejudice implies not being informed/experienced enough and still keeping to the decision.
I’ve tried quite a few turn based games, some for 10’s of hours - and I’m extremely unlikely to try another. I just know after all the experience that they’re not for me.
Prejudice literally just means that you’re judging something before experiencing it. That’s exactly what you’re describing.
It is not a strictly negative concept, you have a limited amount of time on this earth and you’re not going to experience every bit of art ever created.
It has such a negative connotation because you usually hear it regarding human beings, who always deserve to be judged on their own merit.
Prejudice means irrational hate or anger towards something. Irrational being the key word. It has nothing to do with how much experience you have with something.
This argument would work a lot better if you couldn’t just google the oxford dictionary.
Prejudice
- preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience
Oh look, the word experience, right there for all to see.
Irrational, yes, but hatred or anger, not necessarily. You can also be prejudiced in favor of something.
Prejudice literally just means that you’re judging something before experiencing it.
It doesn’t though. It means you have an irrational hostility towards it. If you’ve tried similar things it’s not irrational to think you wouldn’t like other similar things.
I hated Expedition 33’s combat system, with a particular dislike for quick time event as a primary game mechanic.
FF7 remake combat is a great blend of action, strategy, with just a sprinkle of QTE. DOS II is a great example of turn-based combat.
To each their own! My experience was the complete opposite: the active combat mechanics (especially parry) gave me similar satisfaction as action games do - maybe even more dopamine considering the nice audiovisual effect and the +1 AP flashing.
Meanwhile the turn based framework meant I never got stressed out, never got overwhelmed and still had time to take a breath or a sip of coffee in between turns, plus of course the usual synergies and combos and other standard trappings of a turn based RPG.
For me it felt like the best of both worlds.
In general I’d agree but claire was just an incredible game.
I’ll cop to it, it’s me. I hate JRPGs. I think it was Final Fantasy 3 (Technically 6, but I knew it by the US numbering system) which got my hate started. Start a spell or attack, and then go fuck off for half an hour while the attack animation played. This was finalized by Valkyrie Profile. It’s over two decades later and I can still hear Lenneth saying, “It shall be engraved upon your soul. <pause> Divine Assault. <big pause> Nibelung Valesti.” Ok, I get it, it’s her thing, but do I need to hear it three dozen times in every combat? I eventually just stop playing the game, I couldn’t take it anymore.
It’s not turn based RPGs I hate. I’m, currently playing through Baldur’s Gate 3 again, and loved the Divine Divinity series. It’s mostly the mindless repetition of JRPGs that gets to me. Having a 100+ hour game, because 90+ hours are spent grinding random encounters, just isn’t fun for me. Especially when that combat is just click a button in the menu and maybe have a timing button to hit as well to extend the attack. Oh and lets not forget the over blown animations where a character needs to spend 90 seconds winding up his dick, screaming like a idiot passing the largest shit of his life, to maybe make the enemy health bar move down a pixel or two.
And the writing, I get that I’m probably too old to be the target demographic. But, the melodrama is thicker than Ishtar’s left tit. Maybe it’s a translation issue or cultural thing. But ya, not my thing.
I played through skies of arcadia last year on an emulator. at the end the difference between in-game playtime and actualplay time was 8 hrs (out of 45 hrs total in-game) due to me fast-forwarding battle animations 🫠
I’m so tired of RTA games, but there are so few “modern” graphic turned based games that I just don’t play anything new anymore.
The last purely menu-driven JRPG I played was Golden Sun: The Lost Age and frankly, the Golden Sun games were ones I’m glad I left that genre on. Since then, Mario & Luigi, Sea of Stars, and Clair Obscur are the only things I’ve played, turn based rpg-wise.
“Prejudice” nah, some folks just think turn based games are boring and or outdated. Different stroke for different folks and all that.
maybe some gamers just aren’t into turn based games and prefer a different gaming experience.
Isn’t it not fully turn-based (like quicktime-like parry events or something). I grew up playing old turn-based RPGs (like old SSI/TSR games) and love them, but heard this was not even that.
Edit: more turns and less "yurn-"s. Also party -> parry
