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    8 days ago

    I mean, I was super curious what Sanders could’ve done if he had the chance. Instead, we got the opposite experiment.

    If democrats in the US vote for stuff like Biden, then they’re not voting for any radical change. Trump isn’t comparable to that.

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        They were only able to because of the way he went about it. He could have simply ordered the Department of Education to immediately forgive the loans and erase any record of the debt, and dared the SCOTUS to order him to create new debts (which he could simply ignore).

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          Part of not being a dictator is not acting like it, you aren’t going to find a good person acting that way

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            You’re not going to find a good person who puts following rules written to benefit the capitalist class above freeing people from crippling debt.

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              Maybe you should hang around left wingers more

              Being an evil person to get rid of evil just makes another evil person, you can believe you are good until you die but can you believe the person who comes after you will be?

              MLK jr and Gandhi bettered life for their people without violence

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                uhhh, maybe you should?

                left wingers have zero respect for laws and will make the world better and fairer by any means necessary.

                as a leftist if I somehow got control of the state I would immediately order for the rounding up and execution of every single person in the country who is either a corporate executive for a top-250 corporation or in possession of assets worth 100 million or more.

                because that would be the most efficient way of rapidly reducing the risk of the wealthy wresting back control.

                and it would be totally ethical

                as for gandhi and MLK, well, india is a fascist dictatorship and, well, how are things looking for black people in the US?

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                  Not to bat for the disgustingly wealthy, but at the point Leftists have had a successful revolution, we don’t need to execute them outright, just lift their assets and jail them if they resist, or execute if they go on to become terrorists. Learn from successful revolutions, when the Cuban revolution succeeded Castro was actually very lenient in comparison to Batista.

                  Revolution is bloody, and we won’t make excuses, but at a certain point it risks dogmatism. Billionaires aren’t like Minecraft characters that drop their inventories on death, revolution is actually very sensible because it’s a lot easier to sieze their assets when the working class has control.

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      That’s not their purpose, they just need to look the part. They are comfortable in the ‘my hands are tied’ position. They can propose bills they know will not make it. When they have a supermajority, like they had not long ago, they are in trouble. They have no choice but to stop proposing bills and find reasons to say they are ‘sabotaged’. They played this game for centuries, still works.

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        They in this case being libs in liberal democracies, not democrats specifically.

        One way to resolve the contradiction between the capitalist class, which the state represents, and the masses, whom the state requires to maintain power is for the masses to believe their representatives want what’s best for them, but are powerless to implement it due to foreigners or nature or some other group, or are trying and it will happen some indeterminate time in the future.