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This woman is the mother of based. Every time i hear anything from her its good. Paris is lucky to have her.
Although, it’s super common to ear that any problem is to blame on her. It’s so common it has become kind of a running gag. “Oh there is a scratch on my car thank you so much Hidalgo”.
Some explanation I heard is that people living in Paris or very close kinda like her (expect the richer right-winged neighborhoods in the west) but people outside of Paris hate her more because Paris might be less accessible by car than it used to be. My own take on this is that it’s bullshit and Paris was never accessible by car, I have very clear childhood memories of my parents looking for a parking spot for more that 15 minutes while swearing they would never take the car to go to Paris ever again.
Montreal mayor Valerie Plante has the same story… Made the city much better for the majority of citizens but got tons of hate from the minority of drivers in the city plus the suburbanites who couldn’t find a parking spot on the weekends
Unfortunately she is not seeking re-election due to the hate she gets from a very vocal minority of the ciitizens and the suburbanites who arent even technically citizens in montreal
swearing they would never take the car to go to Paris ever again
Mission accomplished
A true “Thanks Obama” for modern times
You can’t imagine all the hate she gets, though…
She tried to claim there wasn’t any sewage in the Seine for the Olympics. She swam in it for a press event, and a website told people upriver what time to flush to make sure it all got there for her big moment.
You almost like the Fr*nch for that sort of thing.
I thought this was for Macron?
I also remember it being for macron.
Depends, most poor people doesn’t live in city center but at its border. So they use lot cars or rer.
The rental price is crazy high there.
They need to divide rent price and create more public transport to connect the outside city to its center. So it’s a very difficult project, so urban planner sketched ideas to decentralize paris from its center.
Nah. Only 4% of the trips of people inside Paris are made by car. If people inside Paris can do it, then so can people from outside Paris. Leave your car outside of the city and use the methods of transport that 96% of Parisians use. There is no right to car travel.
My main point was the living cost. I lived in Paris center in 8m2 for 400€. And paid the navigo pass around 70€ or even more.
If you want to plan an ecological city, you don’t only need to reduce cars but create affordable public transport that connect city border to its center. And the article explain badly the challenge.
Ecological planification can’t bypass social and economy. I was just arguing that you can’t do an ecological city if you don’t reduce rent in Paris’s center.
The problem Paris face is its “gentrification”
The city center is the most expensive one compared to living in rural area with a garden and few basic shop. And everything is less expensive outside Paris.
I lived in Paris center in 8m2 for 400€.
Is this correct? 8 square meters? Was just a bed and a toilet next to it?
Yes. Toilet were collective. They were located outside my flat and digusting. I cleaned them with 1 liter of bleach. Maybe i exagerate but that was the first time of my life i used so much bleach.
Here is the plan.
Left side
- 1 bed
- 1 table + 1 chair
Right side
- 1 small kitchen
- 1 shower
- 1 wardrobe
Between in the middle of left and right side, a small walking corridor of 45cm. With this, you can calculate the surface : 2meters x 4 meters
Freedom is not “being able to drive anywhere.” Freedom is being able to go anywhere with just your own body without a giant metal cage around it.
@comfy All this hate because the car lobbyists know that just a few cities moving away from car-centric infrastructure will show Europeans how much more liveable cities can become.
And to protect their huge profits, they will do everything they can to force people to continue living in overcrowded, dirty, noisy, brutalist hellscapes designed for cars only. And make them pay for it with their taxes, through subsidies and the constant cost of renewing the car infrastructure.Go Paris!
