• Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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      but will it stop affecting us innocent non-United Statesians?

      My fucking wife doesn’t know the name of OUR CURRENT MAYOR, yet she knews about Zohani.

      Go Zohani, but I don’t want to hear about local affairs from the US

      EDIT : my bad on his name, he doesn’t deserve that kind of shit; it’s Zohran Mamdani, but I am leaving the mistake up for the record.

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        Fwiw, not that you’re under any obligation to care as a non-citizen of NYC, his name is Zohran Mamdani. Not Zohani.

        I figure the man is about to have every two-bit piece of shit out there fucking his name up, whether intentionally or not, because it “ain’t American”. Least we can do is get it right.

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        The problem is local US stuff is now a world wide issue… So it’s not going anywhere for now.

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          Yeah, people are right to complain when their local news is being drowned out by american politics but at the same time the political situation in the US is incredibly relevant to any country even tangentially associated with the US. Trump’s trying to do things like drop the nuclear test ban treaty and is actively attacking Venezuela, like, it is important. That the sheer unhinged drama drives engagement to the point that everything else is excluded just means you need to step up and make your own government as fucking crazy as ours is.

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            I mean Trump does that, but how is the daily minutiae of that relevant to me in Europe for example?

            I’ve had the country with the world’s biggest nuclear arsenal threaten to nuke my literal home address like twice in the past 3 years (I used to live near the Rotterdam port for a while), why do I care that the second biggest might someday resume nuclear testing like everyone else already does?

            Or that the US might attack Venezuela? I’ve a full blown war, largest European war since WWII, right next door.

            Trump getting elected and his policy might affect my life somewhat, likely much, much less than my local news do, or EU news, or news in EU-adjacent countries. Mamdani, ICE abductions, they are mostly just interesting stories to read that nobody actually cares about.

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            Trump’s trying to do things like drop the nuclear test ban treaty and is actively attacking Venezuela, like, it is important.

            absolutely. it’s international news and could indicate further things of the sort happening; just like what’s happening in ukraine and israel.

            I still don’t know the mayor of Kyiv or Tel Aviv though.

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              You don’t remember Vitali motherfucking Klitschko, WBO heavyweight champion of 1999 and WBC heavyweight champion of 2004? Also earned a PhD in sporting science?

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          but even for those standards, it’s too much. it doesn’t even fucking affect the entirety of the US except for knock on effects. Like I gave a shit about Milei winning the argentinian elections, only because it could encourage more “libertarian” nutcases.

          Spoilers : Milei is not a “libertarian”, he doesn’t believe in the only fucking saving grace of libertarianism : personal freedoms.

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            But it does, as trump is going to go after new York with even more force now. When Americans finally get off their ass and do something is what we are waiting for and this is the next step… For better or worse.

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              But it does, as trump is going to go after new York with even more force now.

              what does that matter to someone living in the other fucking hemisphere, or hell, in wisconsin?

              EDIT: I’ll even go a step further, why should I give a shit about ICE, yeah, there’s fucking murderous squads of cops beating ethnic minorities. So? They’ve been doing that in Myanmar and Israel for decades, why do I care when it happens to idiots from Cuba that voted for trump, or generic immigrants who said “I’m leaving my home country, where should I move to? Oh, I know, the place where they have no universal healthcare”

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                Because they are putting billions into making it everyone’s problem. Funding similar politicians around the world, making life harder for everyone on the planet… Not too mention the cost of things. They’ve made it everyone’s problem.

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                  But thats not what people complain about

                  Russia does this too, but people dont complain about too much Russian news because there arent posts about internal Russian politics in every single meme community

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                    There super are, just not in english-language ones. Christ, go hang out in a polish meme channel and you’ll get absolutely innundated with “Soybyanin” jokes. That you’re seeing english-language memes about the political situation in the largest english-speaking country really shouldn’t be a surprise to you.

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        Tbf I dont know shit about any of my local politicians because every single one is exactly the opposite of who I want in power anyway so there isnt much point. Is 99% red here

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        Same here, my country just voted on a new government but I doubt most voters know more than 3 names on the ballot yet Mamdani is everywhere.

        Then again New York City’s population is more than half of ours. New York state is probably more.

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          The section of New York City is literally the most diverse place in the world.

          Over 200 languages spoken there. You probably have a cousin in New York.

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            I don’t doubt it. Manhattan was stolen first by my country before we traded it for Suriname.

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              Did you know that “Yankee” comes from Jan?

              The “pure” English colonists in the South looked down on the Dutch because they didn’t have enough slaves and Natives to hate on.

              “Yankee” was originally a slur, until the Americans started winning battles in the Revolution.

              So thanks for that. And the cool city.

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                Pretty sure the current state of New York City is not really a Dutch legacy. But you’re welcome I guess. You’re welcome my people decided to get on boats and plunder half the globe.

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                  The largest African American newspaper in New York is the Amsterdam News.

                  Obviously, it was a much bigger deal back in the day, but it’s still got a lot of readers.

                  So, your legacy lives on.

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          I was about to put “estados unidenses” but thought bringing up spanish for no reason wasn’t right.

          I think I should just call them yankees

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      Look at the UK and what was done there when Corbyn - a real deal leftie - was elected leader of the Labour party (which hadn’t be left of center for decades until then).

      Prepare for the establishments Democrats to cooperate with Republicans and pretty much the entirety of the Press including the “progressive” newspapes to slander him relentlessly.

      In Britain they kept on claiming that Corbyn and Labour under Corbyn were “anti-semitic”, but nowadays after what Israel has done and how that accusation was so abused by those genociders and their supporters to excuse mass murdering of children, I doubt that strategy would work, even in the US (though notice that some are still half-hearthedly trying it with talk about how Jewish New Yorkers should be afraid).

      Just beware: in the UK once they managed to kick out Corbyn the neoliberal faction took over Labour again, did a purge of any leftwing members of the party and now - only thanks to their First Past The Post system - are in government and doing things like convicting people to jail for participating in demonstrations, most notably by declaring of the peaceful protesting groups Palestine Action as a “Terrorist Organisation” and then arresting old ladies for demonstrating against the Gaza Genocide by supporting it, though they’re doing a lot more than that since they’ve passed more generic “public nuisance” legislation to de facto make demonstrations illegal.

      The neoliberals that infiltrated the supposedly leftwing mainstream parties in power duopoly “Democracies”, when push comes to shove are little more than Fascists with fancy suits, smooth talk and extra varnish.